Your agreement isnt needed, because I'm right. Biden's actual actions are irrelevant because Trump didn't have a basis and didnt act until Biden was a political threat.

I just posted the video clips which give a legitimate basis to the desire to investigate Biden's actions in Ukraine.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 30 2020 10:49am

so it boils down to "we aren't going to remove, and even if we hear new information from someone Trump directly told to do something we havent yet heard, we still wont remove".

and they say the leftists are scared of facts.



frankly im getting a bit tired of people saying this over and over and over while they're corrected many times.

The house is the grand jury, which doesn't decide guilt or innocence, just with a VERY loose burden of proof decides if a case is merited.

1. in grand juries they're not always presented with all of the evidence
2. even in a grand jury where they get 100% of the evidence they aren't presented with arguments from the lawyers to decide the context and veracity of the evidence

essentially they're shown evidence, and then just asked if they think the evidence merits a trial. not even whether they think the person might be guilty.

the only reasonable argument ive heard from the right is that:

A. this is not worthy of removal (i agree there)
B. This is political (i agree there)
C. let the democrats try really hard then still fail, then deal with the consequences electorally in the next election

and if Bolton truly does have a silver bullet that wont cause removal but will kill trump at the polls then the american people deserve to hear it, i didnt vote for the 30-40 shill fuckers in red ties who decide what i can and cant hear. fuck them.

Not much movement there, and Trump's approval ratings also havent budged so far.



This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 30 2020 10:43am

Ok, excuse me if I'm lacking knowledge of the American legal system, but do regular grand juries really draft the indictment? Because the House has drafted the articles of impeachment and thus acted in the role of the prosecutor/attorney. And as far as I understand, the Senate trial is confined to those articles of impeachment. So the role the House plays in the impeachment process, at least to me, seems to go substantially beyond simply deciding whether the evidence merits a trial.

To the bold. Okay I guess. I have 3 nodules on my thyroid and just had a blood clot incident. The following is not meant to be directed to only you.

"White House has issued formal threat to Bolton to keep him from publishing book"

Sounds like something an innocent person would do!

seems there's still a swap in the idea of investigating what the fuck he's doing.

Why humor more conspiracy theories?

These are the same dudes that did the Benghazi stunt.

I'm a fan of giving them enough rope and all that.

Your goal is to still give Trump what he wants, to drag political enemies through the mud.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 30 2020 11:43am

Imagine if we elected our governments based on their proposed plans instead of their smear campaigns.

On a serious note, I hope your health improves. Thyroid and blood clot issues are no joke.

On a PaRD note, I'm not defending the white house's "threat" against Bolton for suppression. I'm actually very much against it, and i'm not sure why you think of me as a Trump shill but you do you.