the deliberate misinterpretations know no boundaries it seems



talking about fearmongering, what are you then



a bit more hysteria please?
very interesting that rule of law and constitution are suddenly so important
only when it fits the narrative i guess

still no facts on how said countries are becoming "evil dictatorships"
the funniest part is the outrage about the justice reform in poland that allows parliament to choose the members of the highest court
fucking authoritarians! the judges are not independent anymore!!!111!

meanwhile in reality we have pretty much the same system in germany
oops

This post was edited by ampoo on Apr 12 2018 08:55am

is in constant hysteria about immigrants, cultural war, and terrorism based on fearmongering propaganda by bigots - acts like pointing out ACTUAL FACTS about erosion of democracy and basic rights in countries ruled by his beloved authoritarians is the 'true' hysteria...

defends the undermining of the polish constitution by the populist leadership with ridiculous false equivalences - acts like the european parliament and courts base their investigations and accusations NOT on already existing provisions agreed upon by all members...

>euros

The 'People's vote' launched today, campaigning for a referendum on the terms negotiated with the EU before exiting. If it gets voted down by the public, then leaders of the campaign say it would have to mean staying in the EU.

I disagree with it. It seems to be run by people that are hellbent on staying in the EU and would vote down any negotiated terms brought to the public. There's no guarantee we could join straight back into the EU if the deal didn't win the vote, either. The only referendum I would be in favour of is one that asks the public what type of Brexit they want, as this wasn't specified in the first referendum; however it's important that there is no option to renege on Brexit and overturn the biggest democratic vote in our history.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43774200

Lol, if that didn't give you a suspension then there is progress. You perceive it to be funny because it's on the edge of being culturally acceptable....




I'd argue that this type of correctional referendum is more democratic though. Creating a vision and moving towards it, is what we have our experts in a government for, our representatives. Keeping them responsible for what they do, is more our job as voters in a democracy. So a correctional referendum > an advising referendum, making the possible next referendum a "larger" democratic vote, than the previous one

In other news from your neighbor, we've just removed our referendum rights. As they turned out to be more of a hindrance driven by populism, than actually improving our system.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Apr 16 2018 02:44am

>handling dildos in public is on the edge of cultural acceptance
>the absolute state of euro
Jesus christ its worse than i thought

Patrick Stewart is a damned hero.

Saw his interview with Andrew Marr the other day. What a classy chap. He's still got it.

You really buy into all this 'overturning democracy' rhetoric don't you?

'Oh no guys - They're trying to overturn democracy by giving us a chance to vote on something!'

Come on dude. You gotta realise how dumb that sounds right?

You guys are the ones that said a referendum should never have happened because people are not informed enough to make those calls and should leave it to the politicians.

Now the very same people want a referendum giving people who are not informed enough to make those calls the final say on the result of complex trade negotiations.

Referendum should never have happened in the first place, give MP's a parliamentary vote on it. A simple and logically consistent opinion, unlike yours.

He looks like he's American to me. Mall cops, American looking police car. Not seeing anything to indicate he's european.

Not that it matters. There's dicks everywhere you go (haha) and this kid looks like he's about 15.

One teen's idiocy doesn't represent a whole continent. Be that the American one or the European one.

We opened the floodgates and gave people the vote. The only way to mitigate public outcry if we don't leave the EU is to allow the public to make the choice for themselves.

There is no inconsistency in my opinion bud. You're getting confused between inconsistency and nuance. I'm not an ideologue so you can't understand me. Sorry about that.