There is an extreme class divide in America, and it only really cemented itself in the past few elections

Democrats used to have a big chunk of farmers and laborers (the Minnesotan democratic party is uniquely named the DFL, democrat-farm-labor as a result of a merger long ago).
Now virtually 100% of rural America is republican, all farmers, truck drivers, oil workers, most factory workers, etc. They have become the party of blue collar labor, though service sector economy jobs (ie baristas, servers, cashiers, etc) can be much more politically diverse.
Democrats have similarly high margins of inner city votes, particularly permanent welfare populations in ghettos, bohemians, etc, but also now get a wide swathe of support from affluent suburbs with 'new money'- white collar workers at the top of the food chain, be it IT or medicine or business. By contrast, more established wealthy families going back generations, the 'old money' are largely pro-Trump.


An example I can physically point to in Minnesota is two lakes, both with rather expensive homes. White Bear Lake in Minnesota has very affluent homes dating back to the 1800s, and is extremely pro-Trump. People have lived there for generations and are old money. Meanwhile nearby Snail Lake has far more recent homes, also pretty expensive lake properties (especially considering a lot of them are pretty small) and its absolutely filled with pro-Kamala signs on every lawn. They are new money, families all moved there in the past few decades.

glad this bs propaganda didnt work out this time!!!

Make sense! Thx for the info

how long are they supposed to wait xD this is insane

Also to get to the point of why the parties aligned like this-
Social policy is the #1 element. They weren't even that different on macroeconomics or foreign policy until Trump
Democrats have gone all-in on being the party of providing taxpayer funded social benefits in every way they can dream up. Food, housing, medical, unemployment, income assistance, even reparations, all paid for by taxes. Republicans by contrast have been austere, wanting to restrict benefits or put work requirements, drug testing, etc to motivate people to contribute to society instead of leeching off it. The result has been Democrats getting overwhelming vote bloc majorities from people who exist as an underclass of welfare subsidized cases. In many cases, some I've seen personally, you can have people who contribute nothing to society and represent a huge net burden as they receive free housing, free food, free medicine (and vastly disproportionate amounts of care, particularly the mental health cases). And if they steal from those tax paying productive businesses? Democrats will shelter them from legal consequences.
It also explains part of the division between the liberal minded upper crust and the blue collar / old money conservatives. There are plenty of suburban families who have cushy lives and want to provide for the people at the bottom of society and give them more benefits and social safety nets. Contrasted against those who struggle to make ends meet as they work for a living, and its common to see a big antipathy between working Americans barely getting by with their low end jobs and the welfare cases that don't work.

Michigan is still playing silly buggers.
They're in the eastern time zone, where it's 5 minutes to ten.
They have 97% of the vote counted and they still won't call... RED. LOL






And... Trump is 93,000 votes ahead.


The best part is... you just know they were up at the crack of dawn... looking for Kamala votes. ^^

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 6 2024 08:58am

Donald Trump outperformed every down-ballot Republican candidate. He dragged Moreno over the finish line and looks likely to do the same with McCormick in Pennsylvania. Brown still has a razor thin lead over Rosen in Nevada. The jury is in, Republicans couldn't win in 2022 because Donald Trump wasn't on the ballot.

4 more years of russia? What are your predictions for the coming years of ree?

Lets start with predictions of the coming days, weeks and months of ree.
Democrats had pretty minor riots in 2016 after Trump won. Antifa planned a riot yesterday just to oppose democracy in general before they knew who won, and the Seattle police arrived preemptively and broke it up.
Its still 2 months between today and inauguration and Trump has more bullets to dodge, whether figurative or literal.
They still want to lock him up on bogus charges. Hell we don't even know if Kamala will actually play her role and admit defeat and pass the torch graciously. Trump gave a unity speech, so I sure hope Kamala can do at least this right
Obama said the right words in 2016 and put on a proper show, but spent his lame duck session commanding his underlings to sabotage and spy on Trump

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 6 2024 09:06am