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Oct 9 2023 03:12pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 9 2023 03:56pm)
keep spreading occupier propaganda. it's not like that ever backfires... oh wait, what is this thread about again?


Its about our resident Kraut exposing himself as the Nazi we always knew he was
The difference between myself and Heinreich von Goebbels is that the Nazi flag my gramps got was taken not given
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Oct 9 2023 03:13pm
whoever doesn't acknowledge that israel has been occupying palestinians for decades, is a terrorist sympathiser. not once have those hypocrites called out israel's murdering of innocent people, not once have they criticised the inhumane conditions israel created for palestinians. lying smear merchants...

that said, i long inb4'd the dishonest silencing attempts:

Quote (fender @ 9 Oct 2023 08:57)
to the dishonest simpletons of this sub it doesn't matter if you repeatedly condemned terrorist attacks on innocent civilians, and acknowledged israel's right to exist and defend itself.

as soon as you're providing some context and nuance, as soon as you dare to mention israel's brutal, multi-generational oppression of the palestinian people, and how extreme radicalisation is a problem massively contributed to by their occupation and discrimination, you'll be labeled an anti-semite, a terrorism supporter, and a jihadism sympathiser, no matter how ridiculous that is...

it's a common tactic to silence any legitimate criticism, and people engaging in it don't deserve to be taken seriously.


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Quote (Goomshill @ 9 Oct 2023 23:12)
Its about our resident Kraut exposing himself as the Nazi we always knew he was
The difference between myself and Heinreich von Goebbels is that the Nazi flag my gramps got was taken not given


get some new material, you boring old fart...
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=102073482&f=119&p=652105546

Quote (fender @ 8 Oct 2023 19:41)
what, to you, is ambiguous about the phrasing "despicable terrorist attack" and "terror against civilian population"?

you're just looking for an excuse to fight there, you can't possibly actually think that's somehow not condemning such attacks. in basically every one of my posts in this thread i make it clear that the attackers are terrorists, and that targeting civilians is in no way justified by the legitimate grievances that palestinian people as a whole have against the israeli apartheid state.

disappointing really. i expected those dishonest attacks of my position from the usual, bottom of the barrel pard clowns (ampoo, goon, void...), but for some reason i thought you had a tiny bit more nuance than them... guess i was mistaken...


and by "disproportionate response" i mean israel acting like the hamas terrorists (indiscriminately killing women, children, and innocent bystanders) while ALSO having vastly superior firepower, leading to much higher casualties (as it has been for decades, the numbers don't lie), and imposing additional cruelties and punishment against the vast majority of civilians in gaza.


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Oct 9 2023 03:21pm
there is no occupation and there has never been a palestine

these people are not freedom fighters, they are literal jihadists, who want every single jew out of the middle east

they launched their attacks immediately decades ago and never stopped

its funny how in ukraine international law is so important and here it suddenly isnt ^_^

jewish supremacists clearly exist out there for sure, but this does not change the palestinian and muslim position of the entire region

they dont want a two state solution, they want everything "from the sea to the river"

that statement exists for a reason, how are the jews supposed to deal with this? everyone around them wants them gone

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Oct 9 2023 03:23pm
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there is no occupation and there has never been a palestine

these people are not freedom fighters, they are literal jihadists, who want every single jew out of the middle east

they launched their attacks immediately decades ago and never stopped

its funny how in ukraine international law is so important and here it suddenly isnt ^_^

jewish supremacists clearly exist out there for sure, but this does not change the palestinian and muslim position of the entire region

they dont want a two state solution, they want everything "from the sea to the river"

that statement exists for a reason, how are the jews supposed to deal with this? everyone around them wants them gone


I'm curious about this argument that there "Has never been a Palestine". Can you explain more what you mean by that?
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Oct 9 2023 03:26pm
And Hamas released their first video of executing two hostages in the last 10 minutes on telegram
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Oct 9 2023 03:29pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 9 2023 02:26pm)
And Hamas released their first video of executing two hostages in the last 10 minutes on telegram


For every video you show about Hamas harming someone I can post 10 with the occupiers doing the same.

Yet nobody will condemn the occupiers

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Quote (LL0RT @ Oct 9 2023 02:29pm)
For every video you show about Hamas harming someone I can post 10 with the occupiers doing the same.

Yet you dont condemn the occupiers


goomshill definitely condemns executions of hostages regardless of the side
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Quote (majorblood @ Oct 9 2023 02:31pm)
goomshill definitely condemns executions of hostages regardless of the side


My apologies I'm using my phone. My "you" was not directed towards goom directly. It's a general you as in Americans. I like goom personally. I just hate the hypocrisy around this.
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Oct 9 2023 03:34pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 9 2023 11:23pm)
I'm curious about this argument that there "Has never been a Palestine". Can you explain more what you mean by that?


what i mean is that the palestinian perspective does not hold up in reality, as if they ever had some kind of independent territory or state somebody else could occupy

they were ottoman desert bimbos for centuries until their collapse

if somebody wants to say that the french and english screwed up after, thats surely a valid argument

the only problem here is that non muslims were sent to the region, its that simple

if it had been muslims going there, we would never have heard any problems ever

was it wrong to push settlements into the west bank and make things worse? yes

are there plenty of jewish supremacists, who made serious mistakes and murdered people? yes

it does not change the overall situation, the muslim world wants all jews out of israel and fought them from the start
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