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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 11 2023 07:00pm)
wtf is this :huh:

Why must everything be so political in the US that images and political ideologue have to be imprinted on candies that kids consume.


member when this got brought before the FTC and california courts and paid millions in a settlement as part of billions in other litigation?



THAT was considered to be haraam because any cartoon must appeal to children even if its aimed at an adult audience (so, about Velma...)
now as to candy, with cartoons of children in child-like drawings and colors on it, hrmmm
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Remember this legendary meme from the early pandemic era?


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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 11 2023 05:00pm)
wtf is this :huh:

Why must everything be so political in the US that images and political ideologue have to be imprinted on candies that kids consume.


It's Soviet-style iconography

To build the new citizen we must plaster the icons and symbols within every facet of life such that the people have no choice but to be assimilated
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It's Soviet-style iconography

To build the new citizen we must plaster the icons and symbols within every facet of life such that the people have no choice but to be assimilated


Leninism, I am not sure if I am correct. I just woke up so still a little fuzzy. I remember there is some difference between Leninism and Marxism.
During that period in USSR, China and Vietnam is crazy how they try to influence and brainwash the public. The kids are the ones that suffer the most. Because such ideologue is most likely going to follow them most of their lives.
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Leninism, I am not sure if I am correct. I just woke up so still a little fuzzy. I remember there is some difference between Leninism and Marxism.
During that period in USSR, China and Vietnam is crazy how they try to influence and brainwash the public. The kids are the ones that suffer the most. Because such ideologue is most likely going to follow them most of their lives.


Leninism in particular is the belief that you need a violent revolutionary vanguard party of the proletariat to take power by force, prior to setting up the systems of communism thus setting up a "dictatorship of the proletariat"

Marx himself doesn't really say anything about needing a violent vanguard party, and opposes dictatorships to begin with

That's why nearly 100% of the time, the violent communist revolutionaries are Marxist-Leninists

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Leninism in particular is the belief that you need a violent revolutionary vanguard party of the proletariat to take power by force, prior to setting up the systems of communism

Marx himself doesn't really say anything about needing a violent vanguard party

That's why nearly 100% of the time, the violent communist revolutionaries are Marxist-Leninists


And Maoist as well. The amount of damage especially the Gang of Four in China did in the 60s up till 1975 is nothing short of diabolical.
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And Maoist as well. The amount of damage especially the Gang of Four in China did in the 60s up till 1975 is nothing short of diabolical.


Ya to my understanding Mao was far far worse than Lenin was, although I'm not as familiar with the specifics of Maoism

Lenin himself was "better" than most of the other communist revolutionaries but he still murdered many many people including the brutal murders and torture of the royal family and all their relatives

edit: the plastering of iconography is more of a Stalinist/Maoist thing than a Leninist thing to my understanding

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Ya to my understanding Mao was far far worse than Lenin was, although I'm not as familiar with the specifics of Maoism

Lenin himself was "better" than most of the other communist revolutionaries but he still murdered many many people including the brutal murders and torture of the royal family and all their relatives

edit: the plastering of iconography is more of a Stalinist/Maoist thing than a Leninist thing to my understanding


The horror.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four
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