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Nov 14 2023 01:11pm
Israeli lawmakers call on world to take in Gazan refugees
In op-ed for WSJ, Likud's Danny Danon and Yesh Atid's Ram Ben Barak say world should uphold practice of providing safe haven for refugees fleeing war through pre-planned programs

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bkksv3eet

=> Sounds like another Finger to the rest of the world, and they dare to act like victims.
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Nov 14 2023 01:12pm
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Israeli lawmakers call on world to take in Gazan refugees
In op-ed for WSJ, Likud's Danny Danon and Yesh Atid's Ram Ben Barak say world should uphold practice of providing safe haven for refugees fleeing war through pre-planned programs

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bkksv3eet

=> Sounds like another Finger to the rest of the world, and they dare to act like victims.


no thanks israel i don't want more refugees in my country
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Nov 14 2023 01:42pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 14 2023 07:11pm)
Israeli lawmakers call on world to take in Gazan refugees
In op-ed for WSJ, Likud's Danny Danon and Yesh Atid's Ram Ben Barak say world should uphold practice of providing safe haven for refugees fleeing war through pre-planned programs

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bkksv3eet

=> Sounds like another Finger to the rest of the world, and they dare to act like victims.


Likud's Danny Danon and Yesh Atid's Ram Ben Barak, both members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, wrote in an editorial published in the Wall Street Journal that the West should take in refugees fleeing the war in Gaza. They argued that the UN overlooks the truth that Hamas is a problem rather than a solution, and stress that it's crucial for the international community to support Gaza's people and consider innovative approaches to assist them. Their proposal suggests a model seen in other global conflicts, where various countries would welcome Gaza families wishing to migrate out of the war-torn strip for a chance at a better life.

They write, "Countries can accomplish this by creating well-structured and internationally coordinated relocation programs. Members of the international community can collaborate to provide one-time financial-support packages to Gazans interested in moving to help with relocation costs and to ease refugees’ acclimation to their new communities." The column also touches on how international NGOs can facilitate this idea into fruition: "Global organizations with experience settling refugees should facilitate the relocation of Gaza residents who wish to move to countries willing to accept them. We simply need a handful of the world’s nations to share the responsibility of hosting Gazan residents. Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis."

The editorial was received with satisfaction by far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich who has supported "voluntary migration" of Palestinians from the West Bank. "This is just the kind of humanitarian solution that people in Gaza and the whole region need after 75 years of having a refugee status, living in poverty and facing dangers. Most Gazans are fourth and fifth generation '48 refugees, who instead of getting the help they needed, like countless other refugees around the world, got stuck in Gaza, living in poverty and overcrowded conditions," Smotrich said.

"This was all part of some twisted plan to wipe out the State of Israel and return the refugees to Jaffa, Haifa, Acre, and Tiberias. This mess is why there's so much hate brewing in the people of Gaza towards the State of Israel and the Jews. It's this kind of hate that can explain the horrific slaughter of Israeli citizens by Hamas-Daesh, acting like Israel is the root of all their problems, and thinking the solution is to take it down."

Smotrich further noted: "A small region like the Gaza Strip, devoid of natural resources and autonomous sources of income, cannot sustain itself independently, both economically and politically, given its high population density over an extended period. Thus, the real solution is the acceptance of these refugees by global nations genuinely interested in their well-being. This should be complemented by generous financial aid from the international community, including the State of Israel. This approach is the only viable one to end the suffering and anguish of both Jews and Arabs. The State of Israel can no longer tolerate an independent entity in Gaza, which, as mentioned, fundamentally thrives on animosity towards Israel and a desire to annihilate it."

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so the TLDR is: Israeli armed forces are relentlessly bombing Gaza, killing, men, women and children. The Israeli government is now admitting to the world that it is their plan to remove Palestinians from the river to the sea and if anyone wants to remember Palestinians they are free to take them in. The pretext being, anyone still in Gaza (and the West Bank) is fair game because Israeli already told them to move, they didnt move, therefore they are terrorists and are fair game.

The recent parallel is Ukrainian refugees who were housed across Europe through various schemes following the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Where these Israeli politicians have fallen down is the fact that Gaza and the West Bank are not separate countries and Israel has indicated there will be no home for Palestinians to go back to in a few years time, which effectively wrecks any idea of the schemes being proposed. Quite inconvenient.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 14 2023 01:51pm
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Nov 14 2023 02:00pm
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so the TLDR is: Israeli armed forces are relentlessly bombing Gaza, killing, men, women and children. The Israeli government is now admitting to the world that it is their plan to remove Palestinians from the river to the sea and if anyone wants to remember Palestinians they are free to take them in. The pretext being, anyone still in Gaza (and the West Bank) is fair game because Israeli already told them to move, they didnt move, therefore they are terrorists and are fair game.


We were expecting this since a while anyway AND it was half confirmed by the leak of the "final solution" :

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinians-concept-paper-1.7015576
Leaked document fuels concern Israel plans to push Palestinians from Gaza into Egypt

=> Palestinians are lucky that Israelis Neo-Zionists are part of the Western World (-at least atm-) else they would probably have been exterminated (-Like in the Bible!-).
=> Yes, Israeli governement is far right religious with western capabilities, helped by U.S (same, at least atm), sounds simply: BAD.
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Nov 14 2023 02:16pm
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We were expecting this since a while anyway AND it was half confirmed by the leak of the "final solution" :

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinians-concept-paper-1.7015576
Leaked document fuels concern Israel plans to push Palestinians from Gaza into Egypt

=> Palestinians are lucky that Israelis Neo-Zionists are part of the Western World (-at least atm-) else they would probably have been exterminated (-Like in the Bible!-).
=> Yes, Israeli governement is far right religious with western capabilities, helped by U.S (same, at least atm), sounds simply: BAD.


leaked documents which the Israeli government confirmed are not fake.
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Nov 14 2023 02:19pm
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leaked documents which the Israeli government confirmed are not fake.


I guess they probably expect the World to forget about it in 10 years or even in 1 generation.
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Nov 14 2023 02:44pm
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I guess they probably expect the World to forget about it in 10 years or even in 1 generation.


Left wingers are like cats to a laser pointer - they only focus on the current "thing". Ukraine was the "thing", now that's over, now Palestinians are the "thing". They'll be forgotten as soon as the next "thing" comes along to attract them like a moth to a lamp. Attention spans are not that long, 10 years is very generous.
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Likud's Danny Danon and Yesh Atid's Ram Ben Barak, both members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, wrote in an editorial published in the Wall Street Journal that the West should take in refugees fleeing the war in Gaza. They argued that the UN overlooks the truth that Hamas is a problem rather than a solution, and stress that it's crucial for the international community to support Gaza's people and consider innovative approaches to assist them. Their proposal suggests a model seen in other global conflicts, where various countries would welcome Gaza families wishing to migrate out of the war-torn strip for a chance at a better life.

They write, "Countries can accomplish this by creating well-structured and internationally coordinated relocation programs. Members of the international community can collaborate to provide one-time financial-support packages to Gazans interested in moving to help with relocation costs and to ease refugees’ acclimation to their new communities." The column also touches on how international NGOs can facilitate this idea into fruition: "Global organizations with experience settling refugees should facilitate the relocation of Gaza residents who wish to move to countries willing to accept them. We simply need a handful of the world’s nations to share the responsibility of hosting Gazan residents. Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis."

The editorial was received with satisfaction by far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich who has supported "voluntary migration" of Palestinians from the West Bank. "This is just the kind of humanitarian solution that people in Gaza and the whole region need after 75 years of having a refugee status, living in poverty and facing dangers. Most Gazans are fourth and fifth generation '48 refugees, who instead of getting the help they needed, like countless other refugees around the world, got stuck in Gaza, living in poverty and overcrowded conditions," Smotrich said.

"This was all part of some twisted plan to wipe out the State of Israel and return the refugees to Jaffa, Haifa, Acre, and Tiberias. This mess is why there's so much hate brewing in the people of Gaza towards the State of Israel and the Jews. It's this kind of hate that can explain the horrific slaughter of Israeli citizens by Hamas-Daesh, acting like Israel is the root of all their problems, and thinking the solution is to take it down."

Smotrich further noted: "A small region like the Gaza Strip, devoid of natural resources and autonomous sources of income, cannot sustain itself independently, both economically and politically, given its high population density over an extended period. Thus, the real solution is the acceptance of these refugees by global nations genuinely interested in their well-being. This should be complemented by generous financial aid from the international community, including the State of Israel. This approach is the only viable one to end the suffering and anguish of both Jews and Arabs. The State of Israel can no longer tolerate an independent entity in Gaza, which, as mentioned, fundamentally thrives on animosity towards Israel and a desire to annihilate it."

===================

so the TLDR is: Israeli armed forces are relentlessly bombing Gaza, killing, men, women and children. The Israeli government is now admitting to the world that it is their plan to remove Palestinians from the river to the sea and if anyone wants to remember Palestinians they are free to take them in. The pretext being, anyone still in Gaza (and the West Bank) is fair game because Israeli already told them to move, they didnt move, therefore they are terrorists and are fair game.

The recent parallel is Ukrainian refugees who were housed across Europe through various schemes following the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Where these Israeli politicians have fallen down is the fact that Gaza and the West Bank are not separate countries and Israel has indicated there will be no home for Palestinians to go back to in a few years time, which effectively wrecks any idea of the schemes being proposed. Quite inconvenient.


what a massive leap of logic.

its right there in the statement, if anyone can take in refugees it will help alleviate the crisis.

if their goal was the complete resettlement, river to sea, that would eliminate (not alleviate) the crisis.

trying to resettle people from the most overpopulated area on earth with a terrible living condition even before the bombing is bad now too? lol wtf. wars cause refugees, refugees reach crisis mode without serious planning.
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Nov 14 2023 03:00pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 14 2023 09:42pm)
Likud's Danny Danon and Yesh Atid's Ram Ben Barak, both members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, wrote in an editorial published in the Wall Street Journal that the West should take in refugees fleeing the war in Gaza. They argued that the UN overlooks the truth that Hamas is a problem rather than a solution, and stress that it's crucial for the international community to support Gaza's people and consider innovative approaches to assist them. Their proposal suggests a model seen in other global conflicts, where various countries would welcome Gaza families wishing to migrate out of the war-torn strip for a chance at a better life.

They write, "Countries can accomplish this by creating well-structured and internationally coordinated relocation programs. Members of the international community can collaborate to provide one-time financial-support packages to Gazans interested in moving to help with relocation costs and to ease refugees’ acclimation to their new communities." The column also touches on how international NGOs can facilitate this idea into fruition: "Global organizations with experience settling refugees should facilitate the relocation of Gaza residents who wish to move to countries willing to accept them. We simply need a handful of the world’s nations to share the responsibility of hosting Gazan residents. Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis."

The editorial was received with satisfaction by far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich who has supported "voluntary migration" of Palestinians from the West Bank. "This is just the kind of humanitarian solution that people in Gaza and the whole region need after 75 years of having a refugee status, living in poverty and facing dangers. Most Gazans are fourth and fifth generation '48 refugees, who instead of getting the help they needed, like countless other refugees around the world, got stuck in Gaza, living in poverty and overcrowded conditions," Smotrich said.

"This was all part of some twisted plan to wipe out the State of Israel and return the refugees to Jaffa, Haifa, Acre, and Tiberias. This mess is why there's so much hate brewing in the people of Gaza towards the State of Israel and the Jews. It's this kind of hate that can explain the horrific slaughter of Israeli citizens by Hamas-Daesh, acting like Israel is the root of all their problems, and thinking the solution is to take it down."

Smotrich further noted: "A small region like the Gaza Strip, devoid of natural resources and autonomous sources of income, cannot sustain itself independently, both economically and politically, given its high population density over an extended period. Thus, the real solution is the acceptance of these refugees by global nations genuinely interested in their well-being. This should be complemented by generous financial aid from the international community, including the State of Israel. This approach is the only viable one to end the suffering and anguish of both Jews and Arabs. The State of Israel can no longer tolerate an independent entity in Gaza, which, as mentioned, fundamentally thrives on animosity towards Israel and a desire to annihilate it."

===================

so the TLDR is: Israeli armed forces are relentlessly bombing Gaza, killing, men, women and children. The Israeli government is now admitting to the world that it is their plan to remove Palestinians from the river to the sea and if anyone wants to remember Palestinians they are free to take them in. The pretext being, anyone still in Gaza (and the West Bank) is fair game because Israeli already told them to move, they didnt move, therefore they are terrorists and are fair game.

The recent parallel is Ukrainian refugees who were housed across Europe through various schemes following the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Where these Israeli politicians have fallen down is the fact that Gaza and the West Bank are not separate countries and Israel has indicated there will be no home for Palestinians to go back to in a few years time, which effectively wrecks any idea of the schemes being proposed. Quite inconvenient.


Are you an idiot? Serious question
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Nov 14 2023 03:06pm
Quote (El1te @ 14 Nov 2023 21:44)
Left wingers are like cats to a laser pointer - they only focus on the current "thing". Ukraine was the "thing", now that's over, now Palestinians are the "thing". They'll be forgotten as soon as the next "thing" comes along to attract them like a moth to a lamp. Attention spans are not that long, 10 years is very generous.


I can tell you that here US reputation is still shit since Bush "mission accomplished" era (and i'm not even talking about Trump lol).
Here the most anti-american people are not at left but at right. This is pure benefits for regimes like the Russian one.
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