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Aug 14 2021 09:52pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 15 2021 03:41am)
One example would be how, back in 2019, far-left journalists from Germany intentionally torpedoed the Austrian government between the conservative mainstream ÖVP and the right-wing populist anti-immigration FPÖ. This coalition in a German-speaking neighboring country was a thorn in their side since it started, so they gleefully seized the opportunity to destroy it before the idea of such an alliance catches on in Germany as well.

To be fair though, this was only possible because the leader of the FPÖ was corrupt, incompetent, traitorous moron who fell for a pretty transparent trap and got caught on tape with his metaphorical pants down, musing about selling off his country to a Russian oligarch for influence and power.


yeah, I know the case, I was a bit sarcastic when asking that :P

I remember in germany anything far right is bad, but erecting a lenin statue is good.
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no one has to "bend the knee" to ANY particular political idea, except being a DEMOCRACY. i'm not surprised you keep missing the point here, since first of all you're not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, and secondly it debunks your idiotic narrative, but let me give you the crayon version again: the point here is they should be excluded from the union and not receive any subsidies anymore when they start CENSORING opposition opinions, ignoring LAWS to push their agenda through, and eliminating CHECKS AND BALANCES - in short, when they demonstrate they aren't real democracies anymore.


Sigh. They're not opposing democracy they're opposing far left "progressive" wokeism that's being pushed by western EU countries in an attempt to indoctrinate kids in Hungary and Poland.

How dense are you
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Aug 15 2021 02:00am
Quote (SanduLungu @ Aug 15 2021 05:55am)


I think it was stated that she said people can be attracted to innocence and youthfulness and somehow equates that to being able to lead to pedophilia (something I don't agree with) and that she believes demonizing an act can lead to the propegation of said act. (Something I partly agree with)

No where does she actually condone pedophilia. She is clearly not the smartest on the block and she could've worded things better perhaps (ironic for a poet). But I don't think she meant ill in any way.

Maybe you can save that bullet for an actual pedo. ;)
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Aug 15 2021 02:01am
i love how everything that's not far-right nationalist is somehow "far-left" now: the BBC (lol - well, for someone who reads breitbart it may seem that way...), investigative journalism (no one even knows who is behind the ibiza affair, blackx - stop lying)...

also "far-left" these days: free speech and press, opposing censorship, the rule of law, independent judiciary, democracy itself...


really amazing that people will defend poland for censoring critical media and crippling their judiciary, while being mad about investigative journalists exposing blatant government corruption by right wing politicians. partisanship has really fucked some brownshirts' brains...
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i love how everything that's not far-right nationalist is somehow "far-left" now: the BBC (lol - well, for someone who reads breitbart it may seem that way...), investigative journalism (no one even knows who is behind the ibiza affair, blackx - stop lying)...

also "far-left" these days: free speech and press, opposing censorship, the rule of law, independent judiciary, democracy itself...


really amazing that people will defend poland for censoring critical media and crippling their judiciary, while being mad about investigative journalists exposing blatant government corruption by right wing politicians. partisanship has really fucked some brownshirts' brains...


This has always been a thing, not just ' these days'.

Both the far right and far left are based on ideologies that aren't based on rational thought, and anything that does not fit their narrative automatically gets the evil stamp. Discussion is simply not possible and reason is not their forte.

Also, far left is not all about free speech and opposing censorship. They are the advocates of the most stringent censorship out there. (Well, so is the far right, like I said, if it doesn't fit their narrative, it doesn't belong. I think the ' fight' they are fighting is needed to keep them from realizing the folly of their ideas. That way they won't have to look in the mirror and realize they are actually staring at a dumb fuck.

I personally don't have a very conservative mindset and tend to be all for progression by nature, but when it comes to the power some of these dumb ideologies are starting to have in the current social environment, I'm getting less progressive on a daily basis.

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i love how everything that's not far-right nationalist is somehow "far-left" now: the BBC (lol - well, for someone who reads breitbart it may seem that way...), investigative journalism (no one even knows who is behind the ibiza affair, blackx - stop lying)...

also "far-left" these days: free speech and press, opposing censorship, the rule of law, independent judiciary, democracy itself...


really amazing that people will defend poland for censoring critical media and crippling their judiciary, while being mad about investigative journalists exposing blatant government corruption by right wing politicians. partisanship has really fucked some brownshirts' brains...


bbc has been far left for decades. and paid from contributors money of course.
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that's the point though, they are rapidly declining into NON-democracies. censoring critical media is just one of many steps (hungary is already there, most people are exclusively reached by state run and orban friendly media - poland will be if their latest censorship law becomes reality), crippling the judiciary was another one. just ignoring parliamentary rules in order to do so is another troubling sign - to anyone who actually supports democracy that is, not reactive brownshirts like you ofc.

it's quite obvious you're just mindlessly regurgitating authoritarian propaganda, or simply don't have the slightest clue what's actually going on in poland these days. maybe read some of the links i posted before making such ignorant ass statements:

https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-media-382f8b3fb3645c6a33090e923ff7606d
https://www.dw.com/en/poland-parliament-votes-in-favor-of-controversial-media-bill/a-58828433

https://judicature.duke.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-judicial-independence-in-poland-a-cautionary-tale/
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/13/805722633/polands-overhaul-of-its-courts-leads-to-confrontation-with-european-union


i love how you just ignore the shit, thats going on in your own country every single time i address it

alright, so i have checked out your links and i see two issues

first one is repeating a vote in parliament, when it didnt yield the desired result, complete bullshit obviously
second is firing judges that the executive does not like (the overall idea to check what judges are doing makes sense though)

the attempt to block foreign interference in the media, i totally support that

i still dont understand why poland is triggering people though, by your standards germany should be kicked out of the EU as well

out highest court is filled with government shills and one of merkels personal bimbos is the president

they constantly make decisions against our interests and constitution, giving away our budget to brussels

they just overruled a democratic vote and supplied public broadcasting with more money despite not all states agreeing

the citizens filing against the covid measures just dont get a response or ruling (i guess until they are obsolete) and the "climate verdict" reads like it was copied from the homepage of the husband of one of the court members, who is in the green party (now that i mentioned it, i remember that i wanted to do more research on that)

i never hear a critical word on that unless you do support it of course, which reveals ridiculous double standards once again

we are far worse than poland already

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Aug 15 2021 06:24am
Quote (SanduLungu @ Aug 15 2021 11:57am)
bbc has been far left for decades. and paid from contributors money of course.


This


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authoritarian leadership


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brownshirts


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and drop them back in the dirt where they came from...


You should have a good look in the mirror bud cuz it looks like you're going completely mental.
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Aug 15 2021 06:34am
sad to see fucks loving much much baby totalitarian regimes like poland or hungary shits.
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