Quote (fender @ Aug 14 2021 07:49am)

so you just ignore posts about the actual issue at hand, and reply again with bs propaganda (about "LGBTQ propaganda" and other right wing non-sense), as if nothing happened? again:



now you're trying the "well, it's just a small and reasonable request, and it's not even actual censorship" line. simple question: why? why does the polish government demand that one of its channels cuts its financial ties with an investor from one of its longest allies? how does that make any sense in a free democracy, and are you genuinely that economically illiterate that you can't comprehend the impact that would have on the outlet?

i mean, let's cut the crap, we both know why, and we also both know that censorship does not only come in the bluntest way thinkable, namely a government simply shutting down an outlet for being critical - even if you're trying to pretend anything short of that could be legitimate, no matter how transparent it is...

just please, don't insult your own intelligence by pretending you can't connect the dots between tvn being one of the last critical voices in poland's media landscape and poland's right wing government's push to silence them - i mean, you already gave it away in your first reply anyway, lol.
you might not have been on your a game then, just copying the absurd misrepresentations of what tvn actually is and does, hoping that would somehow justify the support for media censorship by the government, but by now i'm sure you've read into the matter and have a pretty solid idea of what's going on and why this has become an international story.

further debunking your already destroyed second attempt, and trying to finally get a comment regarding the part you constantly dodge: if this was just a perfectly reasonable request in accordance with democratic values, not a big deal at all - why would poland's ruling party have to break parliamentary law in order to push this through the lower house? don't you support the rule of law anymore?



i'll provide some more links to articles, for those who are genuinely unfamiliar with the situation, the context, and the severity of it. but again, i know for a fact YOU are not that uninformed (anymore) - you're just being a hack, happily defending censorship and authoritarianism because it comes from a group you politically agree with.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-media-382f8b3fb3645c6a33090e923ff7606d
https://www.dw.com/en/poland-parliament-votes-in-favor-of-controversial-media-bill/a-58828433

Quote (fender @ Aug 14 2021 08:49am)

so you just ignore posts about the actual issue at hand, and reply again with bs propaganda (about "LGBTQ propaganda" and other right wing non-sense), as if nothing happened? again:



now you're trying the "well, it's just a small and reasonable request, and it's not even actual censorship" line. simple question: why? why does the polish government demand that one of its channels cuts its financial ties with an investor from one of its longest allies? how does that make any sense in a free democracy, and are you genuinely that economically illiterate that you can't comprehend the impact that would have on the outlet?

i mean, let's cut the crap, we both know why, and we also both know that censorship does not only come in the bluntest way thinkable, namely a government simply shutting down an outlet for being critical - even if you're trying to pretend anything short of that could be legitimate, no matter how transparent it is...

just please, don't insult your own intelligence by pretending you can't connect the dots between tvn being one of the last critical voices in poland's media landscape and poland's right wing government's push to silence them - i mean, you already gave it away in your first reply anyway, lol.
you might not have been on your a game then, just copying the absurd misrepresentations of what tvn actually is and does, hoping that would somehow justify the support for media censorship by the government, but by now i'm sure you've read into the matter and have a pretty solid idea of what's going on and why this has become an international story.

further debunking your already destroyed second attempt, and trying to finally get a comment regarding the part you constantly dodge: if this was just a perfectly reasonable request in accordance with democratic values, not a big deal at all - why would poland's ruling party have to break parliamentary law in order to push this through the lower house? don't you support the rule of law anymore?



i'll provide some more links to articles, for those who are genuinely unfamiliar with the situation, the context, and the severity of it. but again, i know for a fact YOU are not that uninformed (anymore) - you're just being a hack, happily defending censorship and authoritarianism because it comes from a group you politically agree with.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-media-382f8b3fb3645c6a33090e923ff7606d
https://www.dw.com/en/poland-parliament-votes-in-favor-of-controversial-media-bill/a-58828433

Quote (Djunior @ Aug 14 2021 06:45pm)

You should look at the root cause --> Far left "progressive" MSM pushing woke propaganda and Hungary and Poland not wanting any of it.

But you don't, the problem is that you support that far left wokeism, you're literally jumping up and down with joy every time the corrupt MSM unleash another wave of "progressive" propaganda.

I mean it's funny to see you're so butthurt over something that is a reaction to your own kind's aggression but it's also pretty sad really

Quote (Djunior @ 14 Aug 2021 19:45)

You should look at the root cause --> Far left "progressive" MSM pushing woke propaganda and Hungary and Poland not wanting any of it.

But you don't, the problem is that you support that far left wokeism, you're literally jumping up and down with joy every time the corrupt MSM unleash another wave of "progressive" propaganda.

I mean it's funny to see you're so butthurt over something that is a reaction to your own kind's aggression but it's also pretty sad really

Quote (fender @ Aug 14 2021 08:29pm)

so if you don't like something, just censor it? how very "free speech" of you. oh right, you never cared about it.

and if you don't have the votes to censor it, just ignore the law, huh? how very "rule of law" of you. oh right, you never cared about that either...


authoritarian shills, brownshirts...

Quote (Djunior @ 14 Aug 2021 20:42)

No buddy, far left "progressives" pushing their agenda. Hungary and Poland don't want their kids corrupted

Quote (fender @ Aug 14 2021 09:43pm)

conservative christian state propaganda is what they are actually corrupted with, and it breeds ignorant bigots like yourself. that's what's really going on. with its latest censorship efforts, poland is on the way to an entirely uncritical media landscape, where the ruling conservative party - which already has crippled the judiciary - eliminates all opposition (not that you ever cared about "checks and balances"). too bad they still need that sweet EU money to build up their shitty economy, i would gladly see them leave the union - but all they do is hold out both hands when it comes to subsidies, while refusing to participate in any attempts to solve problems facing the EU... i just hope their latest authoritarian pushes make the EU democracies realise what they are becoming and drop them back in the dirt where they came from...

Quote (fender @ Aug 14 2021 08:43pm)

conservative christian state propaganda is what they are actually corrupted with, and it breeds ignorant bigots like yourself. that's what's really going on. with its latest censorship efforts, poland is on the way to an entirely uncritical media landscape, where the ruling conservative party - which already has crippled the judiciary - eliminates all opposition (not that you ever cared about "checks and balances"). too bad they still need that sweet EU money to build up their shitty economy, i would gladly see them leave the union - but all they do is hold out both hands when it comes to subsidies, while refusing to participate in any attempts to solve problems facing the EU... i just hope their latest authoritarian pushes make the EU democracies realise what they are becoming and drop them back in the dirt where they came from...