Quote (TiStuff @ Aug 4 2021 03:51pm)

when this covidiot scare produces nothing i wonder what the next covidiot scare will be.

o? whats new?
Biden’s top COVID advisor just admitted the masks people are wearing don’t work
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Whr2rZHUkdCf/

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 4 2021 12:45pm)

Well, the CDC, various public health experts/"experts" and blue state governors are already chomping at the bit to reintroduce restrictions.

Also, vaccine uptake is not only bad in MAGA country but also in heavily black or hispanic places. So it's not like only the red states will be hit badly. And let's not delude ourselves: for political reasons, politicians will not allow a large-scale triage of their own base. Red state leaders will never tell the antivaxx hillbillies to get fucked, neither will blue state governors or mayors accept a wildly disproportionate death toll among their vaccine-sceptic black and hispanic voter base.



Sure, in places with a sufficient vaccination rate among the primary group at risk, namely the persons aged 50+, we will not even come close to hitting the mortality from last winter aagain - but for many people, a winter with similar restrictions to the last one just won't cut it, even if it comes with a lower death toll. Also, this whole "keeping the economy on life support by literally showering everyone and everything with money" approach cannot be kept up indefinitely. Aaaand of course there's still too many places with an insufficient vaccination rate anyway.

Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Aug 4 2021 12:45pm)

I practice on discord talking with people who talk the language natively once i am comfortable enough with the basics. Best way to learn IMO.

Cool that your wife speak Russian. It's a beautiful language.

Mandarin is hardcore AF. Reason i'm learning Mandarin is to be fluent with it if i ever need to start a new business in the future if for some reasons the Gov decide to seize people assets. If it's the case, ima jump straight up on Import/Export business which is good $ and i also like Chinese culture. I love Japanese culture and Koreans but i felt Mandarin would bring more weight.

What languages do you speak?

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 4 2021 04:40pm)

I can converse in English, Spanish, German, and Russian. I wouldn't describe myself as fluent in the latter because I don't really "think" in those languages nor would I be able to have deep conversations in those languages. Basically, I can get around, read at a reasonable level, have pleasant conversations, etc. IMO, you have to do the full immersion thing to truly become fluent.

Quote (thundercock @ Aug 4 2021 03:21pm)

Can we make a bet that if Biden wins you retire from jsp?

Quote (thundercock @ 4 Aug 2021 22:37)

I think a majority of black people live in red states if I'm not mistaken...
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/black-population-by-state

Anyway, I think it helps to look at a county by county level: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view
70% of people aged 65+ are vaccinated in most counties, especially the largest counties. Of the 18+ aged population, you have over 50% vaccinated in most high population counties. Given how effective the vaccines are, I just don't see any sort of nationwide mandate. At worst, you'll have highly targeted lockdowns but I imagine red state governors would rather their population die than piss off the base. At the end of the day, the government isn't going to get involved in a hospital's business. The doctors are going to make that decision and if they think they can save more people by removing unvaccinated people from the ICUs, that's what they'll do. That's not a political thing, that's a medical thing.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 4 2021 02:11pm)

That's the point though: a 70% rate among people aged 65+ doesn't cut it, this number would need to be 85-90%. And it's not like the rate is growing steadily and will get there by the time flu season starts in September/October if we continue at the current rate.

There will of course not be new lockdowns in the sense of mandatory stay-at-home orders or actual curfews - but bans or crippling capacity restrictions on mass gatherings, restaurants, gyms, concerts and the like are entirely possible, particularly in blue cities and/or states. Like I said, the CDC and blue state governors/mayors are already chomping at the bit to reimpose restrictions.

If hospitals can cope in spite of skyhigh infection numbers thanks to the vaccines, we will find out soon in the red states - and blue states will quickly follow suit because they'll have no other choice. But if it's not enough, all hell will break loose, public health-wise, socially, economically and politically.

Quote (thundercock @ 4 Aug 2021 23:59)

If you look at individual counties, some of them are that high. For instance, Orange County CA is sitting at 80% (90% at least one dose) for 65+ and 65% for 12+.
Here's some data on some large counties with at least one dose.
Los Angeles county (the largest in the nation) is at 86%.
Queens county NY is 83%.
Cook county IL (Chicago) is 88%.
Miami-Dade FL is 99.9%

I have to wonder, are there any high population counties that are in blue states that are doing poorly in this regard? Compare that to say Fulton county GA and they are only at 50% with one dose +.