italy cant leave, the moment they do the country collapses

they just leeched dozends of billions from us to "rebuild" or translation, stay afloat and spend money for nonsense

the country is so badly in debt, they owe germany over 400 billion in the target 2 system, italy leaving would blow the EU up or at least the currency



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plus italy is far left importing migrants worse than germany. they also give them EU passports in record times, less than one year. italy is germanistan 2.

well, at least you have the balls to say why you REALLY support poland and hungary, why you don't really care how undemocratic it is, or which alleged "principle" (free speech, rule of law...) of conservatives they violate. you know what, even though i wholeheartedly disagree with you, i respect that you're at least being honest about your actual concerns and priorities, and not trying to downplay the censorship and violation of parliamentary laws like the other brownshirted weasels (ampoo and blackx). i prefer an honest bigot over a dishonest one...

it's very democratic. like orban or not, he is super popular in Hungary and beyond.

of course we need to preserve our white European heritage.

if whites would flock intentionally to Congo and would try to make it white, that would be offending, right?

you know how many muslim terror attacks poland and hungary have had, together, in the last ten years? that is right, ZERO.

how many did germanistan had in the last six months? lmao.

you know what you can do freely in hungary and poland? walk your dog.

im saying this because in muslim terrorized sharia zones you are forbidden to walk dogs because they don't like dogs.

everyone is welcome as long as certain requirements are met and i never said otherwise (and neither did blackx)

unfortunately we are absorbing people, who were failures in their third world shitholes already

talking about laws, the mass migration since 2015 is still illegal and zero fucks are given

every shitfuck can stay here and be a leech, but we are leaving people behind in afghanistan, who worked for our armed forces

as i said before, plenty of shit in our own yard.....

It's not exclusively about migration. Poland, Hungary and (low-key) other Eastern Europeans also stand against the transfer of national sovereignty to Brussels, turning the EU into a debt union, pushing LGBTQ propaganda down our children's throats and many other things. And in the case of Poland and the PiS, they stand for a more left-wing economic/social spending agenda than the "liberal" PO that the Eurocrats and the transatlantic establishment love so much. Without introducing the very popular child benefits, the PiS would neither have won the 2019 parliamentary election nor the 2020 presidential election.

Of course woke leftists like yourself hate governments who invest into their own people rather than in corporate profits, migrants and endless shitty wars.

This is exactly the point. People are inevitably shaped by the environment they grow up in. People who were socialized in backward shitholes with inadequate school systems and an affinity for violence and reactionary religiosity, chances are lower by several magnitudes that they will successfully integrate in Western countries.

so you just ignore posts about the actual issue at hand, and reply again with bs propaganda (about "LGBTQ propaganda" and other right wing non-sense), as if nothing happened? again:



now you're trying the "well, it's just a small and reasonable request, and it's not even actual censorship" line. simple question: why? why does the polish government demand that one of its channels cuts its financial ties with an investor from one of its longest allies? how does that make any sense in a free democracy, and are you genuinely that economically illiterate that you can't comprehend the impact that would have on the outlet?

i mean, let's cut the crap, we both know why, and we also both know that censorship does not only come in the bluntest way thinkable, namely a government simply shutting down an outlet for being critical - even if you're trying to pretend anything short of that could be legitimate, no matter how transparent it is...

just please, don't insult your own intelligence by pretending you can't connect the dots between tvn being one of the last critical voices in poland's media landscape and poland's right wing government's push to silence them - i mean, you already gave it away in your first reply anyway, lol.
you might not have been on your a game then, just copying the absurd misrepresentations of what tvn actually is and does, hoping that would somehow justify the support for media censorship by the government, but by now i'm sure you've read into the matter and have a pretty solid idea of what's going on and why this has become an international story.

further debunking your already destroyed second attempt, and trying to finally get a comment regarding the part you constantly dodge: if this was just a perfectly reasonable request in accordance with democratic values, not a big deal at all - why would poland's ruling party have to break parliamentary law in order to push this through the lower house? don't you support the rule of law anymore?



i'll provide some more links to articles, for those who are genuinely unfamiliar with the situation, the context, and the severity of it. but again, i know for a fact YOU are not that uninformed (anymore) - you're just being a hack, happily defending censorship and authoritarianism because it comes from a group you politically agree with.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-media-382f8b3fb3645c6a33090e923ff7606d
https://www.dw.com/en/poland-parliament-votes-in-favor-of-controversial-media-bill/a-58828433