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Feb 22 2022 05:09pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Feb 22 2022 05:19pm)
From a percentage of GDP, they're minor in comparison. Wheat is the top non-fossil fuel export from Russia, and it was 5th on their list, as of 2019 (https://oec.world/en/profile/country/rus). That year, wheat was a little over $8.1B in export value. The total value of the top 5 Russian exports (including wheat) was $241.2B. So wheat was about 3.4% of the value of the top five exports.

Macroeconomically-speaking, Russia is a gas station.


They're like "but they have snacks dude".

Quote (Sioux @ Feb 22 2022 05:24pm)
The only person in the fucking world saying the ukranian government is full of genocidal Nazis is Putin. There's literally zero evidence of a genocide in ukraine.


#falseflag

Genocides require bodies, and Putin is showing none.

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Quote (Sioux @ Feb 22 2022 03:58pm)
I remember a video I once saw of Chopstickz777 licking putin's boots. I can't find it on the internet now but I'll never forget it.


Haha. Hilarious. Writing off the murders of thousands of innocent people because if you're opposed to genocide this makes you a "Putin bootlicker".

No, you're the bootlicker, and a shameless supporter of fascist tyranny in Ukraine. How truly and utterly shameless you must be.
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Feb 22 2022 05:17pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 22 2022 03:10pm)
Haha. Hilarious. Writing off the murders of thousands of innocent people because if you're opposed to genocide this makes you a "Putin bootlicker".

No, you're the bootlicker, and a shameless supporter of fascist tyranny in Ukraine. How truly and utterly shameless you must be.


Thousands lol. You have zero evidence of that beyond, I saw a youtube video one time of one person.
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Feb 22 2022 05:22pm
Here are some videos from the Ukraine war from 2014-2015 that I enjoyed watching at the time. For anyone who cares:



One from Graham Philips, a UK journalist whom sided with the Donbass rebels and filmed from their perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnPtxltOFlg&t=7s

Graham was a good journalist, one of the very very few who tried to expose the truth in Ukraine. He was injured by a Ukrainian shell and left the country at some point, don't know what happened to him now though.

Givi and Motorola were my boys - some of the best field commanders in the DPR militia. They gained quite a bit of notoriety, and gave some interviews that became semi-famous at the time. Too bad they were both assassinated.. luckily, thanks to Putin their deaths were not in vain.

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Here are some videos from the Ukraine war from 2014-2015 that I enjoyed watching at the time. For anyone who cares:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJ1nWT7QwY

One from Graham Philips, a UK journalist whom sided with the Donbass rebels and filmed from their perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnPtxltOFlg&t=7s

Graham was a good journalist, one of the very very few who tried to expose the truth in Ukraine. He was injured by a Ukrainian shell and left the country at some point, don't know what happened to him now though.

Givi and Motorola were my boys - some of the best field commanders in the DPR militia. They gained quite a bit of notoriety, and gave some interviews that became semi-famous at the time. Too bad they were both assassinated.. luckily, thanks to Putin their deaths were not in vain.


Still not evidence of a genocide
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Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 22 2022 08:00am)
Way too pessimistic. The Chinese are a decade behind on key tech. Their vaccine is the intellectual brainchild of a single man educated in the West who worked on MRNA tech.

The Chinese have roughly $2 trillion USD. It's not insignificant, but not too significant either. Chinese attempts to bypass American and EU payment methods have so far failed to find much traction beyond Chinese borders. Look at the total dollar amount and the footprint is tiny.


It's not about how much treasuries they hold, it's about them choosing to reject the dollar as the de-facto international currency. As China grows stronger and more advanced instead of going to Africa or South America and paying them in USD they could use the Yuan. Right now they may not be at the point where many countries would accept that but when they make that transition the dollar is fucked.

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However, Scott Kennedy, senior adviser and trustee chair in Chinese business and economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), told Newsweek that the rise of digital currencies could eventually allow China to largely do away with the dollar as an intermediary currency when conducting deals with its allies.


If digital currencies do in fact make it easier to conduct trade without the use of the dollar as an intermediary currency, China could find itself with a greater level of financial autonomy when making deals with its allies which could also allow it to avoid American punishment when conducting business that runs in contrast to American interests.

Kennedy said China could use its digital currency to avoid conducting financial transactions through the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) which could allow it to avoid U.S. sanctions.

SWIFT is a secure communications system that allows banks to electronically send money overseas when conducting trade. Though the bank is independent of the United States, it is primarily overseen by the Group of 10 that includes Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the U.S. Because the interests of these nations are often aligned, SWIFT has in the past followed American demands, such as when it expelled Iran's central bank in 2012.

Kennedy said that China's digital currency could allow it to conduct trade outside of SWIFT, allowing it to escape any potential future U.S. sanctions.

"(China) wouldn't need that SWIFT interbank communication system. It is the only way for the U.S. to actually stop any of these transactions," Kennedy said. "There are a lot of different types of economic and political power that can flow from having the world use your currency."


https://www.newsweek.com/china-could-curb-reliance-us-dollar-avoid-sanctions-through-digital-currency-apps-1666116

Also as a side note about Russia, the fact the US wasn't able to kick Russia off Swift is indicative that tbh the Euros are really not that ready to get serious about escalating with Russia. That's what would cause serious damage to Russia's economy, much of these sanctions are show only. I would say the pipeline, and possibly sanctioning some of the banks are impactful, the other stuff is fluff.

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Quote (Sioux @ Feb 22 2022 04:24pm)
Still not evidence of a genocide


It's not intended to be.

Hundreds of thousands of artillery rounds unleashed on residential areas and you think I'm just making it up still.

Done talking to you. It's a complete waste of time and breath. No wonder Russia has decided to act unilaterally without the world's permission - I am sure they feel much the same disgust as I do.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 22 2022 04:09pm)
It's not intended to be.

Hundreds of thousands of artillery rounds unleashed on residential areas and you think I'm just making it up still.

Done talking to you. It's a complete waste of time and breath. No wonder Russia has decided to act unilaterally without the world's permission - I am sure they feel much the same disgust as I do.


Generally genocides generate lots of evidence. People disappearing, bodies that need to be dealt with. All you have are hysterical internet posts and a few tweets. All emotion no facts outta you.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 23 2022 12:09am)
It's not intended to be.

Hundreds of thousands of artillery rounds unleashed on residential areas and you think I'm just making it up still.

Done talking to you. It's a complete waste of time and breath. No wonder Russia has decided to act unilaterally without the world's permission - I am sure they feel much the same disgust as I do.


genocide 7-8 years ago, Russia attacking today.

Why?
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Feb 22 2022 07:16pm
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 21 2022 05:46pm)
On the verge of war between Russia and Ukraine, the party of Reagan this morning:

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1495750407888510985

The pro-Putin take from Tucker tonight is going to be wild.


Let's check back in with the American right-wing, responding today to these troubling events:

https://twitter.com/HouseGOP/status/1496206645919105031

:wacko:
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