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Just to tie this all back together and point out how ludicrous this storyline is-
this story is also about Andrew McCabe, James Comey, IG Horowitz, Manafort, Carter Page & the upcoming FISA report.
bear with me while I put up strings connecting these post-it notes I have peppered across my wall

The 'black ledger' that Hillary got from colluding with Ukraine that Giuliani was investigating, was the evidence cited by the FBI to get a search warrant on Manafort and start the investigation into him. But the black ledger was actually a forgery and the Ukrainians had faked it, and the FBI was repeatedly warned back in 2016 that the ledger was bogus. The transactions were fake- it apparently showed Manafort transferring money illegally across borders while his trial accused him of doing it by wire which isn't the same thing, and they didn't present the ledger at his trial at all, apparently because they knew how bogus it was. So McCabe, in order to reinforce its 'validity' to use in search warrant, McCabe actually leaked the ledger story to the AP, presumably also in a politically motivated hit against Trump (and indeed, was why Trump cut ties with him and dinged his campaign). Then McCabe applied for the search warrant citing both the fake ledger and the "independent media reports" about it, that he himself had leaked. Which is of course one of the aspects of his imminent indictment (or not), as well as the same pattern he and Comey used in setting up the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page- they knew the Steele Dossier was bogus and leaked it to the media and then cited those media reports as corroboration. And that is all about to get torn apart by IG Horowitz in the upcoming FISA report, which should really be dropping any day now.

So its hard to understate just how much of an insane clusterfuck this story is.

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Members of the House of Representatives and Senate formally launched on Thursday this year’s negotiations on the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, the $700 billion bill that sets policy for the Pentagon.

The NDAA has been signed into law every year since 1961, one of the few major pieces of legislation that always gets through Congress despite deep divides between the two parties.

Because it is a rare “must-pass” bill, the NDAA becomes a vehicle for a broad range of policy measures, as well as determining everything from military pay levels to which ships or aircraft will be modernized, purchased or discontinued.

Passing the fiscal 2020 version of the legislation could be difficult, given angry disputes between Republican President Donald Trump and congressional Democrats as well as some of his fellow Republicans.

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Quote (Skinned @ Sep 20 2019 05:07pm)

The thing is compared to Donald Trump Joe Biden is a f******* genius.

I might not be the best but hes not a burning dumpster fire like we have now. We've been at the wrong end of a joke since this dude was inaugurated.

I'm not sure how that republicans managed to pick a dude worse than Bush. They will reelect him just like they re elected Bush. Literally the same people doing same shit.

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Quote (Skinned @ 21 Sep 2019 14:26)

You guys wanted to impeach Clinton over a BJ. This shit is the legacy of Newt Gingrich. The idea of loyal opposition existed until this point and there hasn't been a loyal opposition since mostly.

I know you remember the Reagan years man , Congress was not nearly this dysfunctional, and it all started with the BJ impeachment. Only Republicans will have a congressional hearing to slot shame someone while those same dudes are divorcing their dying wife for a new pretty young one (gingrich) having their parents pay off the staff person whose wife you impregnated (Ensign), or buttfucking strangers in air port bathrooms while being a "champion of family values" (Craig).

This is the time the idea of loyal opposition was eliminated.

Bush 1 somewhat had one. Congress supported his judgment and enabled him to declare war...a.bad one we shouldn't have. At least Saddam and his family are dead. So are a lot of dudes i knew.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 21 Sep 2019 18:26)

Your pitiful attempt at propaganda is futile. Bill Clinton was NOT impeached for the BJ, he was impeached for lying under oath!

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 21 2019 10:44am)

remind me impeaching trump for obstruction instead of treason