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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 2 2019 11:07am)
It's something even moderate conservatives tend to agree with me on

most people (often hypocrites) yapping about free speech do not understand what it is and misuse it in conversation constantly. This applies to right and left

The far/alt right likes to say offensive and racist things and do not want social consequences for it. Which of course has nothing to do with free speech. Then they turn around and have a history of trying to do the exact shit parts of the left have now started doing to them. So even in their misuse of the free speech argument they still manage to be hypocrites

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Quote (Beowulf @ 2 Mar 2019 18:07)
It's something even moderate conservatives tend to agree with me on

most people (often hypocrites) yapping about free speech do not understand what it is and misuse it in conversation constantly. This applies to right and left

The far/alt right likes to say offensive and racist things and do not want social consequences for it. Which of course has nothing to do with free speech. Then they turn around and have a history of trying to do the exact shit parts of the left have now started doing to them. So even in their misuse of the free speech argument they still manage to be hypocrites


you're missing the main area of dispute: the key issue is that the left lays claim to have unilateral authority over what exactly is considered "offensive" and "racist".

particularly in recent years, the left has moved the goalpost further and further and weaponizes the once noble idea of political correctness to silence voices of dissent, to silence opinions which just a few years ago were considered acceptable. pushback against this culture war tactic is very well justified and does not per se constitute an abuse of free speech.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 2 2019 01:31pm)
you're missing the main area of dispute: the key issue is that the left lays claim to have unilateral authority over what exactly is considered "offensive" and "racist".

particularly in recent years, the left has moved the goalpost further and further and weaponizes the once noble idea of political correctness to silence voices of dissent, to silence opinions which just a few years ago were considered acceptable. pushback against this culture war tactic is very well justified and does not per se constitute an abuse of free speech.


Does "the left" have a monopoly on what is offensive? Or do they just accurately convey what is offensive? If the backlash is large enough it doesn't seem like it matters what side ofthe political spectrum says the inciting incident is offensive, it is offensive as evidenced by the backlash.

Quote (duffman316 @ Mar 2 2019 01:37pm)
probably because the right has most of the racist and offensive folks
i mean you did elected the leader of the incredibly racist birther movement as president you know


Also this. As much as "the right" would love us to ignore it, David Duke endorsed Trump and said he heard his coded messages of support loud and clear.

Whether Trump was sending those coded signals is another question, but if your message resonates with the KKK maybe you should reevaluate your messaging.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 2 2019 02:31pm)
you're missing the main area of dispute: the key issue is that the left lays claim to have unilateral authority over what exactly is considered "offensive" and "racist".

particularly in recent years, the left has moved the goalpost further and further and weaponizes the once noble idea of political correctness to silence voices of dissent, to silence opinions which just a few years ago were considered acceptable. pushback against this culture war tactic is very well justified and does not per se constitute an abuse of free speech.


probably because the right has most of the racist and offensive folks
i mean you did elected the leader of the incredibly racist birther movement as president you know
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 2 2019 12:31pm)
you're missing the main area of dispute: the key issue is that the left lays claim to have unilateral authority over what exactly is considered "offensive" and "racist".

particularly in recent years, the left has moved the goalpost further and further and weaponizes the once noble idea of political correctness to silence voices of dissent, to silence opinions which just a few years ago were considered acceptable. pushback against this culture war tactic is very well justified and does not per se constitute an abuse of free speech.


The king birther is the president

Another birther brought a black lady to stick up for the king birther

That's not the opinion of some fringe lefty that wants sjw badges that happened and as long as that type of bullshit still slides in mainstream politics this is still a heavily conservative and very often racist country
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 2 2019 09:35pm)
David Duke endorsed Trump


all black racists endorsed obama, ur point ?
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 2 2019 01:53pm)
all black racists endorsed obama, ur point ?


Black Person vs White Person

black racists vote for black guy
white racists vote for white guy

White Person vs White Person

black racists vote for ????
white racists vote for Trump

Maybe easy to see why it's not similar.

Then again, I'm talking to somebody incapable of anything except shitposting
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 2 2019 09:57pm)
Black Person vs White Person

black racists vote for black guy
white racists vote for white guy

White Person vs White Person

black racists vote for ????
white racists vote for Trump

Maybe easy to see why it's not similar.

Then again, I'm talking to somebody incapable of anything except shitposting


wait, was your trashpost supposed to disprove anything i said ?

so far it only explains why leftist are preparing to sack Barnie Sanders again in favour of Harris or Booker - so that their candidate's skin color could tap into your racist voting base

considering you leftists are mostly racist ( proven by scientific study: https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/white-liberals-present-themselves-as-less-competent-in-interactions-with-african-americans ) - you have zero problem with exploitation & weaponizing of your racist brothers for the greater cause

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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 2 2019 03:05pm)
wait, was your trashpost supposed to disprove anything i said ?

so far it only explains why leftist are preparing to sack Barnie Sanders again in favour of Harris or Booker - so that their candidate's skin color could tap into your racist voting base

considering you leftists are mostly racist ( proven by scientific study: https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/white-liberals-present-themselves-as-less-competent-in-interactions-with-african-americans ) - you have zero problem that weaponizing of your racist brothers for the greater cause


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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 2 2019 01:05pm)
wait, was your trashpost supposed to disprove anything i said ?

so far it only explains why leftist are preparing to sack Barnie Sanders again in favour of Harris or Booker - so that their candidate's skin color could tap into your racist voting base

considering you leftists are mostly racist ( proven by scientific study: https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/white-liberals-present-themselves-as-less-competent-in-interactions-with-african-americans ) - you have zero problem that weaponizing of your racist brothers for the greater cause


I love your anger/aggression to triggered emotional sensitivity ratio

It's always fun to watch
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