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@dajusa, read OP... if you have better explanation, post it (evidence required).
If you have questions, read the whole books, it will answer to your questions.
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@dajusa, read OP... if you have better explanation, post it (evidence required).
If you have questions, read the whole books, it will answer to your questions.


I'm asking you. I'm not gonna read a whole book if you haven't read the whole book.

If you have read the whole book, then provide the answers. It's what discussion is.
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It is impossible to not taste lettuce, because it is impossible to taste lettuce when not tasting lettuce, therefore, you taste lettuce.


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Apr 12 2013 10:48am
Quote (dajusta @ 10 Apr 2013 19:52)
I'm asking you.  I'm not gonna read a whole book if you haven't read the whole book.

If you have read the whole book, then provide the answers.  It's what discussion is.


You don't get it, I do not have time for closed minded people/trolls.
If you are really interested, you will take the time to read it, if not you won't and I really don't care... I won't waste my time for you anyway.

Here is a page of the version without religion that says much :

Page 11 of "The Present" at www.truthcontest.com

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Religious people want to believe so badly, they will ignore scientific evidence, reason, common sense and their own better judgment. Religions have perverted the meaning of the word "truth". The Webster's Dictionary definition below says what the word means:

truth: being in accord with fact or reality

Many things religious people say they believe are not in accord with fact or reality. They are myths, superstition, hope, not truth. To say it is truth is a lie. True or false? In other words, most of the world's traditional religions are spreading lies and many know it, which in addition to being liars makes them dishonest hypocrites. The ones that do not know they are lying think they are doing the will of their god, when in truth, they are doing the will of the enemy of their god, Satan, who is defined in their holy books as the great deceiver, the king of all lies.

The real truth unites people; it does not divide them. It makes sense, and it applies to everyone, everywhere, all of the time. It creates clarity, not confusion. The truth leads to real equality, freedom, peace, love and understanding. The real truth only asks you to believe in something you can check for yourself.

Anyone who cares about the truth enough to check what it is will know the truth. Those who do not care enough will not learn the truth and will be lost and deserve to be lost.

Monkey see, monkey do: Most people just tell people what they have been told the truth is. They just accept what others say the truth is, especially if it is what people have been accepting as the truth for thousands of years. It is monkey see, monkey do.

Second-hand truth should not be believed or repeated without checking it out for yourself. The age of playing follow the leader is ending now.

Second-hand truth is called hearsay in a court of law, and it is not admissible for an important reason; it has proven not to be a dependable source of the truth.

What could be more irresponsible than saying something is true without knowing beyond a reasonable doubt that it is true? Billions of people are doing it.

Do not believe what anyone says, including me; check things for yourself. You have to see the truth yourself in life itself to know it.

You are at what could be the end of a very long and difficult quest. You now have the opportunity to complete the quest and leave the animal realm forever.

The only real difference between mankind and other animals is our ability to reason and think. Thus, reason has to be what we have to use to evolve further. We have to use what sets us apart from other animals.

The truth: You now know “the truth” part of the truth and life. There are only five fundamental things you need to know, and they are the following:

1. Our true history.
2. You are immortal.
3. Everything will balance.
4. You are a spiritual being.
5. The present is everything.
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Apr 12 2013 10:58am
Quote (dajusta @ Apr 10 2013 11:52am)
I'm asking you.  I'm not gonna read a whole book if you haven't read the whole book.
Let me help you out here. According to the OP: if you haven't read every single word of the book, you are not qualified to comment on any particular section. Additionally if you have read the entire book but don't agree with it, you re-read until you agree with it.

Oh and he also assured us that rock and roll didn't exist before the Beatles...

This post was edited by Azrad on Apr 12 2013 11:01am
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Apr 12 2013 03:30pm
Quote (dajusta @ 10 Apr 2013 19:52)
I'm asking you.  I'm not gonna read a whole book if you haven't read the whole book.

If you have read the whole book, then provide the answers.  It's what discussion is.


Actually I read it 3 times and I'm reading it for the 4th time now.
That said I can not read it for you.
I can show you the door, but you have to walk through it.
I gave you a key to open the closed door in your mind, it is not my call if you use it or not.
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Actually I read it 3 times and I'm reading it for the 4th time now.
That said I can not read it for you.
I can show you the door, but you have to walk through it.
I gave you a key to open the closed door in your mind, it is not my call if you use it or not.


Straight from the Matrix. :thumbsup:
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Apr 13 2013 02:59am
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Straight from the Matrix. :thumbsup:


Yeah, one of the most truthful movies.
I wonder if it doesn't come from Jesus originally.
Anyway the source is the same : what the bible calls the holy spirit... and what matters is the message, not the messenger.
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Apr 13 2013 03:42am
Quote (Eti_fr @ 26 Mar 2013 00:04)
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Our spirit is also like nothing. It is the so-called empty space between everything. The majority of everything is nothing, and it connects everything, everywhere.
Our essential, immortal self or soul is like the blank sheet that physical life is written on, ...


Quote (Eti_fr @ 29 Mar 2013 20:43)
I don't believe in anything.
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yes? the first quote sounds very much like a believe - if you disagree show some proof for your spirit

Quote (Azrad @ 12 Apr 2013 16:58)
Let me help you out here. According to the OP: if you haven't read every single word of the book, you are not qualified to comment on any particular section. Additionally if you have read the entire book but don't agree with it, you re-read until you agree with it.
...


you are talking about the bible here?

Quote (Eti_fr @ 12 Apr 2013 21:30)
Actually I read it 3 times and I'm reading it for the 4th time now.
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seems your beloved book is full of contradictions (just seeing your quoted page 11 and your posts)
really befitting for invented religious scripture
just read it more often until you eliminate any capacity for logical thinking
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Apr 13 2013 05:39am
Quote (brmv @ Apr 13 2013 02:42am)
you are talking about the bible here?
actually no I was talking about The Present, but it sure sounds familiar don't it?

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