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Aug 24 2024 07:24pm
Quote (IceMage @ 25 Aug 2024 00:39)
Ah yes, I'm sure her paternal ancestors being members of the Jamaican elite helped her greatly in her American journey. :lol:

The point is that she is coming from a highly educated, well-connected family which has belonged to the upper echelons of their respective society for multiple generations. Again: her two parents were literally a Stanford professor and a researcher. Her life story might be inspirational for other high-education immigrants and their offspring, but it's hardly representative or inspirational for African Americans, or for poor/low education migrants.

The truth is that types like Kamala's parents tend to succeed wherever they go, the "American Dream" isn't really needed for that. Kamala didn't overcome particularly strong adversity.

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Aug 24 2024 07:37pm
Quote (IceMage @ 25 Aug 2024 00:31)
What was so bad about the bill? You're speaking vaguely about it. Democrats supported the bill so before Trump went against it, it was likely to pass.

The border patrol union in cahoots with Democrats? Uh.... what are you talking about?

Also, this is a hallmark of people who never want to get anything done. Complain that a bill isn't exactly what you want, therefore the situation stays the same. Would the bill have made the situation better or worse?


No, this bill was never gonna pass, even if Trump had remained silent on it. It was a truly awful bill which, like I've said, betrayed many long-standing principles of Republicans on border policy.

The bill would have made the situation VERY marginally better in the short run, but drastically worse in the long run by enshrining the current status quo at the border and giving Mayorkas the ability to grant asylum status to migrants without any limit or congressional oversight. To be more specific on why this bill was so bad and such a fraud, I'll just copypaste one of my older posts:



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The bill drafted by the Senate wouldn't actually do anything to solve the problem while making things worse in a lot of ways. Here are some noteworthy details from the Senate bill:

The bill increases the volume of legal immigration per year. It normalizes a number of 5000 illegal border crossing per day/1.8million illegals per year by saying "extraordinary action is only necessary if numbers surpass this threshold". The authority to crack down on the border which gets triggered above this treshold can be waived by the president at any time. And it's limited to a certain number of days per year. A cap which also decreases every year. And the bill gives the DoH the ability to outright grant asylum status without judicial review or cap - a status which enables full access to welfare and government payments and sets the migrants on a pathway toward citizenship. And the bill makes the liberal-leaning DC circuit court the only court in which this bill can litigated. And a significant chunk of the funding that this bill allocates for "border security" would actually go to federally funded lawyers for the asylum seekers, lmfao.

As long as a Democrat is president and pro-open-border figures run the administration, this bill makes the situation outright worse than the status quo. If a Republican is in the WH, he is only granted additional powers to secure the border once an absurdly high volume of illegal entries is exceeded. Powers which he can only use for a limited number of days. And the DC court, which is full of pro-swamp, pro-migration bureaucrats, can kneecap him with ease.

All in all, this bill does more to institutionalize the current status quo at the border than to change it. And it gives future Democratic administrations the power to increase the the immigration numbers even further while kneecapping future Republican presidents who want to crack down on the border.


Here is a breakdown of this bill by senator Tom Cotton:
https://i.redd.it/w23e3yco1ugc1.png

On the point of the timing/the question whether Trump was the one who started the backlash against this bill among the GOP ranks: Note that Cotton posted this at 11:43 AM. Here is a link to Trump's TruthSocial post from the same day in which he denounced this bill, which he only posted at 3:27 PM, almost 4 hours after Sen. Cotton had already come out against this bill:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111879340091575646

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 24 2024 07:39pm
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Quote (Pyrotechx @ 24 Aug 2024 21:24)
My mom is 100% German. Came from Germany and all.

I can't speak German, other than a few words and lines.

I know dozens of people with asian parents, can't speak a lick of it other than English. Your argument is bad.


“Asian” isn’t a language, your script needs rewriting, you paid shill.

Reported, btw
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Quote (excellence @ Aug 25 2024 01:28pm)
“Asian” isn’t a language, your script needs rewriting, you paid shill.

Reported, btw


Reported for what? LOL. Who said Asian was a language? You do realize there are multiple languages inside the Asian ethnicity, right? Sounds like you need to brush up on your ethnic studies.

Edit - I was going to report you, but someone already did. "Paid shill"? tsk tsk.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 24 2024 08:24pm)
The point is that she is coming from a highly educated, well-connected family which has belonged to the upper echelons of their respective society for multiple generations. Again: her two parents were literally a Stanford professor and a researcher. Her life story might be inspirational for other high-education immigrants and their offspring, but it's hardly representative or inspirational for African Americans, or for poor/low education migrants.

The truth is that types like Kamala's parents tend to succeed wherever they go, the "American Dream" isn't really needed for that. Kamala didn't overcome particularly strong adversity.


Trump started out with a small loan of a million dollars and only had 6 bankruptcies so far
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Quote (MildSambal @ 26 Aug 2024 04:54)
Trump started out with a small loan of a million dollars and only had 6 bankruptcies so far


Trump doesn't go around claiming that his life story is an inspiration to the downtrodden. :rolleyes:
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Aug 26 2024 12:09am
I don't think you can even debate that Trump is a better candidate than Kamala. She's ahead
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 25 2024 09:56pm)
Trump doesn't go around claiming that his life story is an inspiration to the downtrodden. :rolleyes:


Oh right because Trump is so humble right right
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Quote (Rezzakin @ Aug 26 2024 02:09am)
I don't think you can even debate that Trump is a better candidate than Kamala. She's ahead





Who is ahead in the polls has nothing to do with who is the better candidate.
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Aug 26 2024 07:23am
Quote (Pyrotechx @ 25 Aug 2024 22:42)
Reported for what? LOL. Who said Asian was a language? You do realize there are multiple languages inside the Asian ethnicity, right? Sounds like you need to brush up on your ethnic studies.

Edit - I was going to report you, but someone already did. "Paid shill"? tsk tsk.


You did:

Quote (Pyrotechx @ 24 Aug 2024 21:24)
I know dozens of people with asian parents, can't speak a lick of it other than English. Your argument is bad.


reported, btw
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