d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Coronavirus Thread
Prev1545546547548549910Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 32,468
Joined: Sep 4 2009
Gold: 10,588.69
Jun 16 2020 12:50pm
Quote (dro94 @ Jun 16 2020 09:00am)
Oxford researchers have found the drug dexamethasone reduces Coronavirus deaths. In the trial it reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators.

It's cheap, easy to use and could save so many lives across the world.


lol.. a steroid isn't going to be the answer to a virus..
Member
Posts: 53,338
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Jun 16 2020 12:56pm


kek

This post was edited by excellence on Jun 16 2020 12:57pm
Member
Posts: 33,663
Joined: May 9 2009
Gold: 3.33
Jun 16 2020 12:57pm
Quote (excellence @ Jun 16 2020 07:45pm)
so it wont get any traction unfortunately


We've approved it for use today, but what other governments do is up to them!

Quote (Flicker69 @ Jun 16 2020 07:50pm)
lol.. a steroid isn't going to be the answer to a virus..


Is reducing deaths by a third 'the answer'? I wouldn't say so.

Either way, I'm trusting Oxford over your dumb ass.
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Jun 16 2020 01:13pm
Quote (dro94 @ 16 Jun 2020 20:57)
We've approved it for use today, but what other governments do is up to them!



Is reducing deaths by a third 'the answer'? I wouldn't say so.

Either way, I'm trusting Oxford over your dumb ass.


Yes, this one is for you


A treatment "available immediately"
Faced with these results, specialists are divided. Some are particularly convinced by the conclusions of this test, such as Djillali Annane, head of the resuscitation* service at Raymond Poincaré de Garches hospital in Hauts-de-Seine. "We found a first treatment for Covid-19," he says. "It is available immediately around the world and it is accessible because this treatment is generic. It no longer costs anything. It is a giant step in the fight against Covid-19. This is the unexpected news that we were all waiting for, "added the doctor.

*ty google translation

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 16 2020 01:14pm
Member
Posts: 32,468
Joined: Sep 4 2009
Gold: 10,588.69
Jun 16 2020 01:14pm
Quote (dro94 @ Jun 16 2020 11:57am)
We've approved it for use today, but what other governments do is up to them!



Is reducing deaths by a third 'the answer'? I wouldn't say so.

Either way, I'm trusting Oxford over your dumb ass.


A steroid may help with the symptoms, don't get me wrong. It's an anti-inflammatory and obviously someone with COPD, or on a ventilator should have one.

The fact that it's worded as dexamethasone as some type of cure for coronavirus was my issue. Take that for what you want. You are very ignorant to the pathophysiology behind what you are blabbering about.

For example, sedation medication "holidays" are shown to improve outcomes of patients of ventilators. It has nothing to do with Coronavirus though..

A steroid might treat a symptom of COVID, but nothing to do with COVID itself..

An ice pack might alleviate the symptoms of a malignant hyperthermia, but it won't solve your cause of malignant hyperthermia.. Does that make sense to you? Tried dumbing it down for ya.

edit: Dex reduces ventilator deaths, yes. If you take covid in that account, then sure. But saying dex directly relates to covid is wrong imo.

edit2: I want to see what alleviates COVID before it gets to the point where they are vented, trached and PEG'd and needing dex..

This post was edited by Flicker69 on Jun 16 2020 01:23pm
Member
Posts: 33,663
Joined: May 9 2009
Gold: 3.33
Jun 16 2020 01:27pm
Quote (Flicker69 @ Jun 16 2020 08:14pm)
A steroid may help with the symptoms, don't get me wrong. It's an anti-inflammatory and obviously someone with COPD, or on a ventilator should have one.

The fact that it's worded as dexamethasone as some type of cure for coronavirus was my issue. Take that for what you want. You are very ignorant to the pathophysiology behind what you are blabbering about.

For example, sedation medication "holidays" are shown to improve outcomes of patients of ventilators. It has nothing to do with Coronavirus though..

A steroid might treat a symptom of COVID, but nothing to do with COVID itself..

An ice pack might alleviate the symptoms of a malignant hyperthermia, but it won't solve your cause of malignant hyperthermia.. Does that make sense to you? Tried dumbing it down for ya.

edit: Dex reduces ventilator deaths, yes. If you take covid in that account, then sure. But saying dex directly relates to covid is wrong imo.


I didn't say or even imply it was a cure. You're either not very good at reading or you're making up an issue so you can proceed to flex on me with your extensive medical knowledge. I just wish the guys at Oxford University were as smart as you.
Member
Posts: 32,468
Joined: Sep 4 2009
Gold: 10,588.69
Jun 16 2020 01:31pm
Quote (dro94 @ Jun 16 2020 12:27pm)
I didn't say or even imply it was a cure. You're either not very good at reading or you're making up an issue so you can proceed to flex on me with your extensive medical knowledge. I just wish the guys at Oxford University were as smart as you.


"Oxford researchers have found the drug dexamethasone reduces Coronavirus deaths. In the trial it reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators."

First sentence, I disagree.
Second sentence, I agree.

First sentence is too vague and not enough info. And it only really applies to people who have COVID AND are on a ventilator.

edit: I was just making my post. Youre the one who started calling names, lmao. Keep it grown up in here please.

This post was edited by Flicker69 on Jun 16 2020 01:32pm
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Jun 16 2020 01:32pm
Quote (Flicker69 @ Jun 16 2020 12:31pm)
"Oxford researchers have found the drug dexamethasone reduces Coronavirus deaths. In the trial it reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators."

First sentence, I disagree.
Second sentence, I agree.

First sentence is too vague and not enough info. And it only really applies to people who have COVID AND are on a ventilator.


That's still important since if you're on an ventilator, you have a really high chance of dying.
Member
Posts: 32,468
Joined: Sep 4 2009
Gold: 10,588.69
Jun 16 2020 01:33pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 16 2020 12:32pm)
That's still important since if you're on an ventilator, you have a really high chance of dying.


Dex reduces # of ventilator patient deaths. Is accurate.
Dex reduces # of coronavirus patient deaths. Is inaccurate and too vague.

Like I say. I'm not arguing what it is. I'm arguing how it was worded..

This post was edited by Flicker69 on Jun 16 2020 01:34pm
Member
Posts: 66,666
Joined: May 17 2005
Gold: 17,384.69
Jun 16 2020 01:36pm
Quote (Flicker69 @ 16 Jun 2020 21:31)
"Oxford researchers have found the drug dexamethasone reduces Coronavirus deaths. In the trial it reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators."

First sentence, I disagree.
Second sentence, I agree.

First sentence is too vague and not enough info. And it only really applies to people who have COVID AND are on a ventilator.


No, first sentence is fine, it reduce corona death.
It's not a big deal anyway, you may say "ok butt butt'... It's still saving 13% of those who are hospitalized without oxygen and without ventilator.

It's a bit late now, for EU... Maybe it will save third world countries like Africa or US
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1545546547548549910Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll