Cross immunity being the best explanation now.

From discussion with people i know:

80 years guy in bad condition (cancer etc) got covid but didn't even noticed it. (cross immunity very probably)
60 years guy got sick, feels better and get back at home... 3 weeks; Get sick again, hospital, coma, wake up, seems a bit better, then dies of CVA 2 days later.

When discussing re-opening/closing down/staying closed, we should pay close attention to hospital and ICU availability. States across the US didn't order shelter-in-place recommendations in order to prevent infections or necessarily save lives - it was really about flattening the curve to allow for medical capacity.

Thus, it should be a highly localized approach. It's a fine line between being reactionary and precautionary, and I don't envy decision makers at this time. However, some smart motherfuckers have already done some of the math for us:



https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.00262/full

These authors propose a gradual release strategy, wherein a large portion of the population is released initially, followed by a period of 1-2 weeks after after the end of an infection peak in community spread before a smaller potion is released back to work, followed by 'second peak' 1-2 months after the initial release (where we could be heading in 1 month), with the remaining population remaining population in quarantine for another 1-2 weeks.

This is essentially what some states have already been doing. Unfortuantely, other states (many of the red states in the top figure), employed an on-off release strategy, which will likely overwhelm their healthcare capacities.

tl;dr: States should pay close attention to the ICU occupancy and employ 1-2 week waiting periods of a gradual release strategy of their populations to make more informed decisions.

Suck a fatty, were opening up

It is Boomers, Black people, the immunocompromised, and people with obesity/type 2 diabetes/cardiovascular risk factors that will ultimately have to suck a fatty with these states' on-off strategies. The young, middle-aged, and economy have taken hits over the past 2.5 months to protect these groups.

A gradual release strategy is probably better, but this is one aspect I like about our 50 states: we can see and compare in real-time how different policies and ideas work across the different states.

The good thing about states is they can act as a laboratory trying different ideas and seeing the results. The bad thing about states is they aren't isolated, so when one place fails and produces a shit load of poor people they travel to well-off states for opportunity and make them look worse as a result. So our states are shitty laboratories lol.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 14 2020 05:04pm

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This post was edited by duffman316 on Jun 15 2020 09:53am

Oxford researchers have found the drug dexamethasone reduces Coronavirus deaths. In the trial it reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators.

It's cheap, easy to use and could save so many lives across the world.

so it wont get any traction unfortunately