Quote (fender @ Jul 18 2021 03:15pm)

poland and hungary have been the main recipients of EU money for years, if not decades. MASSIVE budget drains. your attempts to portray that fact in a more positive light don't make the statement any less true...

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/18794.jpeg

and no, hungary and poland's right wing governments are not merely "rejecting wokeism", or whatever you want to call the opposition against the discrimination of people based on race / religion / sexuality / gender... they are actively ROLLING BACK protections and rights of women and minorities, pushing laws, changes to the judicial system, and even the constitution in order to consolidate power. now obviously i'm not surprised that you bootlickers are trying to defend those authoritarians - but you'll have to come up with a better excuse to justify those blatant power grabs of religious zealots and bigots.

concerning orban's fragility: the dude canceled his planned visit to that very game because of criticism of his anti LGBTQ legislation, ffs. concerning his UEFA connections and influence: https://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/em_2021/kommentar-von-hugo-mueller-vogg-im-bett-mit-orban-regenbogen-debatte-zeigt-die-ganze-verlogenheit-der-uefa_id_13427436.html

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 21 Jul 2021 16:08)

orban is now planning to make the controversial, so called LGBTQ laws a referendum......but....but the leftist media said that hungary is a dictatorship!!!111!!!

thats going to be interesting ^_^

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 21 2021 09:57pm)

the liberal forces in the country will just boycott the referendum to discredit it, rather than losing.
worst case scenario for them is that orban wins the referendum and can then stick it to the EU saying "see, the majority of my country supports my LGBTQ policies, eat shit".

if they boycott it, orban will win the referendum with close to 100% in favor, but he cannot claim that the results are representative of the will of the hungarian people.
it would also help paint the picture of orban as a shady wannabe-dictator who's conducting elections and plebiscites which are reminiscent of the riggered elections in the former eastern bloc.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 21 Jul 2021 22:27)

you could make that argument for every vote

if you dont show up, its your own problem

nobody talks about the result being representative after a parliament election with like 60% attendance

if orban wins this referendum its the will of the people

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jul 21 2021 09:27pm)

you could make that argument for every vote

if you dont show up, its your own problem

nobody talks about the result being representative after a parliament election with like 60% attendance

if orban wins this referendum its the will of the people

Quote (SanduLungu @ 22 Jul 2021 00:36)

they did the same in Romania and the referendum to make marriage between a man and woman specifically in the constitution was lost because not enough people went out to vote.
the percentage was like 92% in favor of the change though.

Viktor Orban is a great leader, take this from a Romanian and you might know that hungarians and us are not best buddies.

Quote (SanduLungu @ Jul 21 2021 10:37am)

you know how many terrorist attacks poland and hungary have? what about anti jewish attacks?

lmao.

but your germany which is so diverse has a lot.

hypocrisy.

Quote (nomadwgk @ Jul 22 2021 02:03am)

Don't even talk about Polaks and Jews in the same sentence, obviously you don't know shit.

Quote (SanduLungu @ Jul 22 2021 03:09am)

is it worse than in Germany?