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Mar 7 2022 12:11pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 7 2022 12:06pm)
Dumb fuckery like this is exactly why there's war in Ukraine right now. The evidence is undeniable I posted it above as you can see for yourself.

A man a man a word a word but we don't give a shit, lol. The result is that Russia, a country that possesses 6K nukes do not trust as at all after the broken promises.


There's war in Ukraine because Putin is a piece of shit dictator with dying dreams of Empire.
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Mar 7 2022 12:11pm
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verbal promises preceded the signing of the treaty.

its like a used car salesman offering free oil changes, then you sign paperwork the doesnt include that, and you get mad when you show up for your free oil change. it's fine to be mad, both at the salesman and yourself for not reading carefully. its not fine to shoot up the place.


The bible says to turn thieves into your slaves, so it isn’t far off though.
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Mar 7 2022 12:11pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 7 2022 12:08pm)
And you're an idiot if you think any self respecting nuclear power is going to befriend a bunch liars encroaching on their borders.

You're welcome


Point to where I said anything remotely close to that.
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Mar 7 2022 12:13pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 7 2022 01:10pm)
You need to prove the reason Russian invaded Ukraine was because Nato broke their promise.


ask Putin. he cites that, while calling people in Ukraine Nazis.
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Mar 7 2022 12:14pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 7 2022 12:11pm)
Not sure what you are saying. So if two countries are in opposition, then their leaders (or maybe delegates) can break promises as much as they want?


That promises not committed to paper are not promises at all.
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Mar 7 2022 12:15pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 7 2022 12:13pm)
ask Putin. he cites that, while calling people in Ukraine Nazis.


...while employing Nazis.
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Mar 7 2022 12:17pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2022 10:14am)
That promises not committed to paper are not promises at all.


Verbal promises are still promises. And when they come from an entity like the Nato, I expect them to mean something.

Maybe you renege on your verbal promises all the time just because they are not in writing. However, you need to realize that not everybody is a weasel like you.
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Mar 7 2022 12:22pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 7 2022 12:17pm)
Verbal promises are still promises. And when they come from an entity like the Nato, I expect them to mean something.

Maybe you renege on your verbal promises all the time just because they are not in writing. However, you need to realize that not everybody is a weasel like you.


NATO was not a party to the 2 plus 4 treaty. Come back to reality.
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Mar 7 2022 12:24pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2022 10:22am)
NATO was not a party to the 2 plus 4 treaty. Come back to reality.


This discussion is not about whether Nato was a party to that or not. It's about you thinking that verbal promises can be broken just because they are not committed in writing.
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Mar 7 2022 12:24pm
Quote (Djunior @ 7 Mar 2022 18:06)
I asked you to post the 2014 interview. I get that this is another fail, frenchy.
Dumb fuckery like this is exactly why there's war in Ukraine right now. The evidence is undeniable I posted it above as you can see for yourself.
A man a man a word a word but we don't give a shit, lol. The result is that Russia, a country that possesses 6K nukes do not trust as at all after the broken promises.


1 / https://www.rbth.com/international/2014/10/16/mikhail_gorbachev_i_am_against_all_walls_40673.html

"The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years."

2 / Show me the treaty text specifying what you are claiming. If you not, stop talking about it and join Putin army, they need you lol. Plain and simple.
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