I would love to pay someone to do a documentary on all the lefties of this forum. It would be certainly illuminating to see the real life character and environments such stunningly successful and intelligent people reside in.

This post was edited by LA-Leviathan on Sep 19 2019 07:08pm

You'd have to make a list of lefties first.

thesnipa
excellence
majorblood
handcuffs

oh you were saying lefties not classic or moderate liberals, well here is the list:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=138769
https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=840089

So apparently the "whistleblower" scandal is actually just the same shit we've been hearing about for years, the Joe Biden / Hunter Biden / Ukraine story, where Giuliani tried to get the Ukraine to say what was going on with Joe pressuring them to remove the judge who was against Hunter, a scandal which Giuliani claims was only overturned because they were already looking into yet another preexisting scandal, the Ukraine - Manafort ledger and Hillary's collusion with their embassy.

Now the media is trying to run stories about Trump colluding with Ukraine to impact the 2020 election by trying to get the Ukraine to reveal how Hillary colluded with them to impact the 2016 election, which turned up how Biden colluded with them to impact his son's legal woes. Yet miraculously, all that latter part of the story is completely absent on the MSM and we're just hearing nebulous, undefined rumormongering about Ukraine and whistleblowers with no context

If it's related to Ukraine it's probably regarding the coming annexation of the Donbas.

Skinned tells us its pretty great.



I knew this even before you told me. I wonder how. Almost like a fucking pattern.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Sep 19 2019 08:52pm

Media is trying to push it as the next muellerburger, but it seems like a vain hope
How are they supposed to push a story that is fundamentally accusing Trump of "getting a foreign country to meddle in our election" by asking them to reveal how Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden got that same foreign country to meddle in our election and personal scandal? Are they going to accuse him of holding the same leverage that Joe Biden did, or just hammer away on how it could influence the 2020 race if Ukraine revealed how they influenced the 2016 race? lul.
I don't see how they can spin this story without crashing.

tl;dr version...

Dems and their subsidiary the media trying to say Trump colludes with Ukraine in 2020.

Almost like...

Dems and their subsidiary the media trying to say Trump colludes with Russia in 2016.



Deja vu.




/e





Yes, we'll have to give the dems credit for moving UP to 2D skullduggery.

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 19 2019 09:13pm

They pretend to be so happy on TV. They're so desperate for a win

Just to tie this all back together and point out how ludicrous this storyline is-
this story is also about Andrew McCabe, James Comey, IG Horowitz, Manafort, Carter Page & the upcoming FISA report.
bear with me while I put up strings connecting these post-it notes I have peppered across my wall

The 'black ledger' that Hillary got from colluding with Ukraine that Giuliani was investigating, was the evidence cited by the FBI to get a search warrant on Manafort and start the investigation into him. But the black ledger was actually a forgery and the Ukrainians had faked it, and the FBI was repeatedly warned back in 2016 that the ledger was bogus. The transactions were fake- it apparently showed Manafort transferring money illegally across borders while his trial accused him of doing it by wire which isn't the same thing, and they didn't present the ledger at his trial at all, apparently because they knew how bogus it was. So McCabe, in order to reinforce its 'validity' to use in search warrant, McCabe actually leaked the ledger story to the AP, presumably also in a politically motivated hit against Trump (and indeed, was why Trump cut ties with him and dinged his campaign). Then McCabe applied for the search warrant citing both the fake ledger and the "independent media reports" about it, that he himself had leaked. Which is of course one of the aspects of his imminent indictment (or not), as well as the same pattern he and Comey used in setting up the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page- they knew the Steele Dossier was bogus and leaked it to the media and then cited those media reports as corroboration. And that is all about to get torn apart by IG Horowitz in the upcoming FISA report, which should really be dropping any day now.

So its hard to understate just how much of an insane clusterfuck this story is.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 19 2019 11:01pm