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"You are immortal; it is impossible to not be, because it is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious.

Our spirit is also like nothing. It is the so-called empty space between everything. The majority of everything is nothing, and it connects everything, everywhere.

Our essential, immortal self or soul is like the blank sheet that physical life is written on, the darkness that gives light a place to shine, the silence that gives sound a place to be heard. An infinite stadium that the game of life is played in. Nothing is more than something. It is the complete opposite of what people think. It is impossible to get your mind around; all you can do is know it is true and be it.

There are some things that are beyond the mind, literally. You can only know them, or in this case be them, when the mind is open.

You cannot experience nothing: You do not look inside yourself to find yourself as some eastern religions have been saying; there is nothing there. You cannot see or experience nothing; it is impossible. You can be like nothing, but not experience it. There is nothing to experience.

What does the experiencing cannot be experienced.

Spiritual perspective: You do not look in; you do the opposite, and you look out through your senses. When you experience everything, you experience nothing at the same time. You have to be nothing to experience everything. If you are something, there is no room for everything. It is the spiritual perspective. You are looking out from nothing to everything, from nowhere to everywhere, from stillness to movement, from darkness to light."
From page 2 and 70 of The Present on http://www.truthcontest.com/
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Eti_fr, what do you believe in?

What is your view on God?

On problem in life?

On morality?

On afterlife?

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Mar 29 2013 02:43pm
Quote (dajusta @ 26 Mar 2013 21:54)
Eti_fr, what do you believe in?

What is your view on God?

On problem in life?

On morality?

On afterlife?


I don't believe in anything.
I know some things are rational and logic, make sense... and others don't.
That is not the point of this thread anyway.

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The truth of life does not change anything in life except people's minds. Things stay the same. The truth just removes the unnecessary suffering, conflict and confusion from life.

The truth about life is actually very simple; it is just hard to see for the first time.

Life: It all boils down to how you feel from moment to moment, how often you feel good and how often you feel bad, and it will be balanced like everything else physical. Your infinite past was balanced, and your infinite future will be too, unless you change from a physical being into a spiritual being. To change into a spiritual being, you just have to know the truth, which changes your point of view and your perspective of life so that you start to live your life as a spiritual being.

Our life does not have to be just fifty-fifty like the physical world, because our spiritual-self, our immortal-self, is not physical and does not need to be balanced to exist. Our physical environment cannot fundamentally change, but we can. You just have to know it to do it.

Nothing is going to make any real difference in your life except separating yourself from the balanced physical world. It can and will change everything.

The truth reveals that you do not need to experience the bad to have the good. The bad will still happen, but you will perceive it differently.

Good/bad: When you know the truth, you take the two sides of life, the good and bad side, and see them as one whole. You do this by understanding what the balancing force means. It means all bad times will pass and be compensated for by an equal amount of good times. It also means all good times will pass and be paid for with an equal amount of bad times. It will always balance.

When you know the truth, you will enjoy the good times more and still avoid a bad time when you can, but when you cannot, the knowledge of the balance helps you get through the bad times. This is because knowing that the worse it gets, the better it will be, makes bad times almost enjoyable. More importantly, it centers your perspective of life. You see both sides of life; whole life, true life.

You do not get just 50/50; you get 100%.

The knowledge of the balance takes away your reasons to be mad, sad, hate, worry, envy, be disappointed; it takes away all negative emotions and feelings.

It removes all stress and negative mind-made feelings from your life. The mind starts disappearing, and true life starts appearing.

As the mind gets smaller, life gets bigger. As the mind shrinks, life expands. When the mind disappears completely, your perception of life becomes clear. Eventually, you will only think when you have to, which is not very often. You will be able to accept the present of life, no matter what is happening. You change into a new being, a spiritual being, and you become the present, the eternal NOW.


from page 5 of "The Present" at www.truthcontest.com

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Quote (Eti_fr @ Mar 25 2013 06:04pm)
"You are immortal; it is impossible to not be, because it is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious.

Our spirit is also like nothing. It is the so-called empty space between everything. The majority of everything is nothing, and it connects everything, everywhere.

Our essential, immortal self or soul is like the blank sheet that physical life is written on, the darkness that gives light a place to shine, the silence that gives sound a place to be heard. An infinite stadium that the game of life is played in. Nothing is more than something. It is the complete opposite of what people think. It is impossible to get your mind around; all you can do is know it is true and be it.

There are some things that are beyond the mind, literally. You can only know them, or in this case be them, when the mind is open.

You cannot experience nothing: You do not look inside yourself to find yourself as some eastern religions have been saying; there is nothing there. You cannot see or experience nothing; it is impossible. You can be like nothing, but not experience it. There is nothing to experience.

What does the experiencing cannot be experienced.

Spiritual perspective: You do not look in; you do the opposite, and you look out through your senses. When you experience everything, you experience nothing at the same time. You have to be nothing to experience everything. If you are something, there is no room for everything. It is the spiritual perspective. You are looking out from nothing to everything, from nowhere to everywhere, from stillness to movement, from darkness to light."
From page 2 and 70 of The Present on http://www.truthcontest.com/


It is impossible to not taste lettuce, because it is impossible to taste lettuce when not tasting lettuce, therefore, you taste lettuce.
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It is impossible to not taste lettuce, because it is impossible to taste lettuce when not tasting lettuce, therefore, you taste lettuce.


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"You are immortal; it is impossible to not be, because it is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious.

Our spirit is also like nothing. It is the so-called empty space between everything. The majority of everything is nothing, and it connects everything, everywhere.

Our essential, immortal self or soul is like the blank sheet that physical life is written on, the darkness that gives light a place to shine, the silence that gives sound a place to be heard. An infinite stadium that the game of life is played in. Nothing is more than something. It is the complete opposite of what people think. It is impossible to get your mind around; all you can do is know it is true and be it.

There are some things that are beyond the mind, literally. You can only know them, or in this case be them, when the mind is open.

You cannot experience nothing: You do not look inside yourself to find yourself as some eastern religions have been saying; there is nothing there. You cannot see or experience nothing; it is impossible. You can be like nothing, but not experience it. There is nothing to experience.

What does the experiencing cannot be experienced.

Spiritual perspective: You do not look in; you do the opposite, and you look out through your senses. When you experience everything, you experience nothing at the same time. You have to be nothing to experience everything. If you are something, there is no room for everything. It is the spiritual perspective. You are looking out from nothing to everything, from nowhere to everywhere, from stillness to movement, from darkness to light."
From page 2 and 70 of The Present on http://www.truthcontest.com/


would be more rational to believe that life continues even after the material life?
do not lose their individuality and continue to be the same person?
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would be more rational to believe that life continues even after the material life?
do not lose their individuality and continue to be the same person?


Life cannot continue without a physical body, your spirit goes from a body to another.
We already moved from a body to another millions of time to evolve to now.
I'm not sure what you mean with "individuality and continue to be the same person", but our minds and environments change when we change body. That said our spirits remain the same, as explained on this quote from page 70 of The Present.
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Life cannot continue without a physical body, your spirit goes from a body to another.
We already moved from a body to another millions of time to evolve to now.
I'm not sure what you mean with "individuality and continue to be the same person", but our minds and environments change when we change body. That said our spirits remain the same, as explained on this quote from page 70 of The Present.


I agree with reincarnation as you said yourself.
if you read Allan Kardec, you will better understand it all.
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The truth of life does not change anything in life except people's minds. Things stay the same. The truth just removes the unnecessary suffering, conflict and confusion from life.  How do you know this?

The truth about life is actually very simple; it is just hard to see for the first time.  Can you summarize truth in one or two sentences?

Life: It all boils down to how you feel from moment to moment (Why is this? What about purpose and meaning), how often you feel good and how often you feel bad, and it will be balanced like everything else physical. Your infinite past was balanced, and your infinite future will be too, unless you change from a physical being into a spiritual being. To change into a spiritual being, you just have to know the truth, which changes your point of view and your perspective of life so that you start to live your life as a spiritual being.

Our life does not have to be just fifty-fifty like the physical world, because our spiritual-self, our immortal-self, is not physical and does not need to be balanced to exist. Our physical environment cannot fundamentally change, but we can. You just have to know it to do it.

Nothing is going to make any real difference in your life except separating yourself from the balanced physical world. It can and will change everything.  You sound like a Buddhist or Hindu trying to eliminate desire.  Is that what you believe?  How do you know that?

The truth reveals that you do not need to experience the bad to have the good Interesting statement, but your next statement here doesn't explain why that is the case. The bad will still happen, but you will perceive it differently.

Good/bad: When you know the truth, you take the two sides of life, the good and bad side, and see them as one whole. You do this by understanding what the balancing force means. It means all bad times will pass and be compensated for by an equal amount of good times. It also means all good times will pass and be paid for with an equal amount of bad times. It will always balance.   Well, what is the "truth"? You keep speaking about it, but never getting to it.

When you know the truth, you will enjoy the good times more and still avoid a bad time when you can, but when you cannot, the knowledge of the balance helps you get through the bad times. This is because knowing that the worse it gets, the better it will be, makes bad times almost enjoyable. More importantly, it centers your perspective of life. You see both sides of life; whole life, true life.

You do not get just 50/50; you get 100%.

The knowledge of the balance takes away your reasons to be mad, sad, hate, worry, envy, be disappointed; it takes away all negative emotions and feelings.

It removes all stress and negative mind-made feelings from your life. The mind starts disappearing, and true life starts appearing.

As the mind gets smaller, life gets bigger. As the mind shrinks, life expands. When the mind disappears completely, your perception of life becomes clear. Eventually, you will only think when you have to, which is not very often. You will be able to accept the present of life, no matter what is happening. You change into a new being, a spiritual being, and you become the present, the eternal NOW.


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