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lock her up, lock her up, oh wait
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Jun 23 2023 03:57pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jun 23 2023 02:18pm)


actual documents wouldnt fill half a box.........
pic doesnt include panty raid


This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 23 2023 04:00pm
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bu bu bu butt FBI honest injun this time
'So Corrupt And So Rotten': Harriet Hageman Shreds The FBI At John Durham Hearing


This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 24 2023 02:12pm
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 16 2023 05:12am)
Arent you interested in a process where the potus can declassify anything, BUT has to notify the public so we can know what is now declassified? the freedom of information act is one of the greatest democratic gains we've ever gotten.


Public notice is great but unnecessary. The act of silent declassification doesn't run contrary to freedom of information, since it makes government secrets permissible to be disclosed even if they aren't. Also, again, placing requirements on this authority diminishes the authority, which I believe runs contrary to the purpose of the office. A civilian elected leader, separate and above the military and law enforcement agencies with regard to these matter. If he's not above the Pentagon or CIA or FBI, we don't have as civilian run government, just one that operates at the whim of military organizations.

Also, the photos in this thread are telling. Pictures of boxes prove nothing. They could be filled with old newspapers for all we know. We know the number of classified documents wasn't in the thousands, so the photos of boxes is just a disingenuous propaganda ploy. The storage of boxes in an unused bathroom is also being thrown around like some damning accusation when it once again proves nothing. Perhaps the FBI could say the boxes in this or that photo contained various documents (not that I'm about to take Peter Strzok's colleagues at their word on the matter.) Also, the fact that most of these documents have cover pages puts a dent in to the whole "Trump showed military plans to a third party, we have the audio!" claim. Like I said earlier, he could have been waving one of these files around with out showing more than the cover page.

Much like why I think Russia shouldn't play ball with NATO (since the West has engaged in zero good faith behavior since the fall of the Soviet Union in regards to NATO expansion). Why should Trump or his supporters give the benefit of the doubt to any government agency when they have been acting in bad faith since before he was elected. Let's not forget of elements in the government bragged when they lied about troop numbers to Trump so he wouldn't order reductions in military presence overseas. The Feds lie.


This post was edited by PlasmaSnake101 on Jun 25 2023 06:35am
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Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Jun 25 2023 05:23am)
Public notice is great but unnecessary. The act of silent declassification doesn't run contrary to freedom of information, since it makes government secrets permissible to be disclosed even if they aren't. Also, again, placing requirements on this authority diminishes the authority, which I believe runs contrary to the purpose of the office. A civilian elected leader, separate and above the military and law enforcement agencies with regard to these matter. If he's not above the Pentagon or CIA or FBI, we don't have as civilian run government, just one that operates at the whim of military organizations.

Also, the photos in this thread are telling. Pictures of boxes prove nothing. They could be filled with old newspapers for all we know. We know the number of classified documents wasn't in the thousands, so the photos of boxes is just a disingenuous propaganda ploy. The storage of boxes in an unused bathroom is also being thrown around like some damning accusation when it once again proves nothing. Perhaps the FBI could say the boxes in this or that photo contained various documents (not that I'm about to take Peter Strzok's colleagues at their word on the matter.) Also, the fact that most of these documents have cover pages puts a dent in to the whole "Trump showed military plans to a third party, we have the audio!" claim. Like I said earlier, he could have been waving one of these files around with out showing more than the cover page.

Much like why I think Russia shouldn't play ball with NATO (since the West has engaged in zero good faith behavior since the fall of the Soviet Union in regards to NATO expansion). Why should Trump or his supporters give the benefit of the doubt to any government agency when they have been acting in bad faith since before he was elected. Let's not forget of elements in the government bragged when they lied about troop numbers to Trump so he wouldn't order reductions in military presence overseas. The Feds lie.


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Jun 25 2023 07:41am
Quote (TiStuff @ 23 Jun 2023 17:57)
actual documents wouldnt fill half a box.........
pic doesnt include panty raid
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/08/30/us/politics/30dc-investigate-3/30dc-investigate-3-superJumbo.jpg


bro you need to keep your story straight it always changes.

You used to claim that exact photo you keep sharing as a fake news photo doctored or placed by the FBi remember? You said DOJ planted all that stuff remember? Thats what the television told you to think back then remember?

Now you seem to be using that same photo to defend 45th actually saying' the bathroom photos must be fake, because I have the real photo right here, and it only shows 50 documents, not 50 boxes, so it must be fake"

So you now admit that the photo is real? Or you are willingly showing what you think is a faked photo in order to defend the validity of another fake photo?
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trump needs to go away, he's basically a democract agent, destroying the GOP and causing infighting via the freedomcawkass.
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Jun 25 2023 08:08am
Jack Smith is like mega giga End Raid Boss dude.

He is so leet.

Before Trump lawyers can complain to any judge about anything Jack already has discussed it with the judge and already figured it out.

Jack Smith is super super high elo lawyer he doesnt play games bro there will be literally 0 ts not crossed or I's not dotted.


For example:

Jack Smith handed over all the evidence plus all the extra bullshit documents that no one hands over just to ensure that Trumps lawyers have absolutely 0 legal excuse to slow down the process.

Jack already went to the Judge to say to the judge that Trump lawyers dont have enough time for an August trial, so we should start the trial in December. Judge said yes... Now Trump lawyers plan was to complain to the judge that they dont have enough time and the trial should be pushed to like August of 2024. Jack already covered that entire scenario before Trump lawyers even had time to think of it as a tactic.

Holy Fuck this Jack Smith guy is actually super fucking 1337 lawyer man I fucking wish this was on CSPAN so I could watch this mans cook

This post was edited by Crunkt on Jun 25 2023 08:10am
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Quote (Crunkt @ Jun 25 2023 08:08am)
Jack Smith is like mega giga End Raid Boss dude.

He is so leet.

Before Trump lawyers can complain to any judge about anything Jack already has discussed it with the judge and already figured it out.

Jack Smith is super super high elo lawyer he doesnt play games bro there will be literally 0 ts not crossed or I's not dotted.


For example:

Jack Smith handed over all the evidence plus all the extra bullshit documents that no one hands over just to ensure that Trumps lawyers have absolutely 0 legal excuse to slow down the process.

Jack already went to the Judge to say to the judge that Trump lawyers dont have enough time for an August trial, so we should start the trial in December. Judge said yes... Now Trump lawyers plan was to complain to the judge that they dont have enough time and the trial should be pushed to like August of 2024. Jack already covered that entire scenario before Trump lawyers even had time to think of it as a tactic.

Holy Fuck this Jack Smith guy is actually super fucking 1337 lawyer man I fucking wish this was on CSPAN so I could watch this mans cook


Talk about being a cucked “hog”.
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