Quote (fender @ 18 Jul 2021 15:15)

poland and hungary have been the main recipients of EU money for years, if not decades. MASSIVE budget drains. your attempts to portray that fact in a more positive light don't make the statement any less true...

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 18 2021 04:21pm)

Srsly, just go bitch on your own shithole, your attacks are pathetics and you have absolutely zero argument.
Btw want poland and hungary ? you can take these fucking shits.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Jul 2021 16:28)

The point is that Poland will cease being a drain and become a net contributor in the forseeable future. Which also shows that the investment the EU made in Poland has paid off, at least in economic terms. Note that before the eastern expansion of the EU, Spain, Portugal and the southern parts of Italy were also huge beneficiaries of EU money, yet they did not see similar growth as Poland and remain structurally weak and debt-ridden to this day. In economic terms, the EU investment into southern Europe paid far worse dividends than the investment into eastern Europe.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Jul 2021 14:28)

The point is that Poland will cease being a drain and become a net contributor in the forseeable future. Which also shows that the investment the EU made in Poland has paid off, at least in economic terms. Note that before the eastern expansion of the EU, Spain, Portugal and the southern parts of Italy were also huge beneficiaries of EU money, yet they did not see similar growth as Poland and remain structurally weak and debt-ridden to this day. In economic terms, the EU investment into southern Europe paid far worse dividends than the investment into eastern Europe.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 18 2021 04:21pm)

Srsly, just go bitch on your own shithole, your attacks are pathetics and you have absolutely zero argument.
Btw want poland and hungary ? you can take these fucking shits.

Quote (Djunior @ Jul 18 2021 06:56pm)

Meanwhile the EU have set their sights on Albania and Ukraine, nice trade off frenchie. I'd take Hungary and Poland over those two any day ;)

Quote (fender @ Jul 18 2021 12:38pm)

hungary and poland are massive drains on the EU budget, and their right wing governments are undermining basic democratic principles, threatening and curtailing the rights of millions of citizens, predominantly women, immigrants, and the LGBTQ community. i'd happily see them leave and complete their transformation into right wing authoritarian shitholes.

and no, you're wrong about the football match. it was in munich, which happens to be in germany, not hungary. the munich stadium has a feature which allows it to be illuminated in different colours. munich city officials and the DFB (german football association) wanted to illuminate it in rainbow colours, considering it was pride month and fitting with UEFA's official stance on inclusion - but hungarian officials felt mortally offended by a bunch of lights, and used their connections with UEFA leadership to prevent that, claiming rainbows were a provocation to their fragile manhood.

can you imagine some offended bigots telling other EU members what to "frikking do" in their own stadiums? oh right, of course you can. and not only that, now that you know the real story, you're probably inclined to celebrate it - completely unaware how your ignorance accidentally made a great argument AGAINST the narrative you were trying to push there, LMAO. imagine having such a fragile masculinity that you can't deal with the idea that gay people should not be discriminated against. pathetic really...

Quote (fender @ Jul 18 2021 03:55pm)

you're living in fantasy land. no, so far NOTHING "has paid off", lol. the article you linked made a prediction based on continued economic growth (which was always going to be sketchy, diminishing returns and such), that by 2027 (that's still SIX years from now!), poland MIGHT become a net contributor - but not only was that extremely optimistic / favourable, but it also was before covid hit.

and even IF they become a net contributor by 2030 or some time in the distant future, which already is a big IF, that will for a VERY long time not even remotely cover the trillions they received in subsidies. to develop democratic regions and provide its people with a good living standard, i'm perfectly fine with that - but to support a right wing government rolling back women's right and protections for minorities, and undermining democratic structures, establishing authoritarian leaderships, i'm strictly opposed to financing that kind of shit.