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Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ Dec 17 2024 11:26am)
I been called a white supremacist for saying that. Reality is ; White people are the only one that build first world nations. Others destroy em.


Which is 100% true.

The most important thing for America & the other Anglo states is that the levers of power are held by white Christians. Most other stuff with respect to government is fluff.

And that isn't "white supremacy". That doesn't mean that non-white people are legally discriminated against, it simply means that a stable and fair system of government is maintained in perpetuity, which has strong protections for minority rights & the maintaining of checks & balances.

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Which is 100% true.

The most important thing for America & the other Anglo states is that the levers of power are held by white Christians. Most other stuff with respect to government is fluff.

And that isn't "white supremacy". That doesn't mean that non-white people are legally discriminated against, it simply means that a stable and fair system of government is maintained in perpetuity, which has strong protection for minority rights & the maintaining of checks & balances.


100% agreed.
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I work in banking, and sometimes we have relationships that are covered by our Canadian bankers. Because of the monopoly of the big 6, in Canada, finance jobs pay absolutely shit compared to US. I mean you only have so many places to go work if you don't like it right? I would wager it's the same with a lot of other industries. The huge benefit for Canadians would be access to probably one of the largest markets in the world, especially for professional jobs. It would make Canadian properties more affordable (i guess a good and a bad because people would be losing appreciated equity). I live spitting distance from southern Ontario and it's absolute kek to see sheds listed for 400k price tags.

In the grand scheme of things, i think it would be a net positive for most Canadians.


I'm not talking about pay. Yes pay is greater in the USA, work life balance at-least from a pub-co finance and ops perspective is not.

The fact you instantly went to thinking of pay could not embody what i'm saying more. I swear to god its all Americans care about and they are willing to pick up the phone 24/7 minimal time off, sacrifice friends, family and values to get it. No thanks.

Canada generally has more leave than the USA and balance. Many EU countries have more leave and balance than Canada. Were in the middle and its an okay place to be, balance wise.

Im sitting here, paid holidays from the 15th to the 6th just for Christmas. That's not out of my 5 weeks vacation time per year, 15 special lieu days and 25 annual sick days. My American counterpart I just sat in a board meeting with is going to work until the 24th.

Anecdotal of course, but statistically just look at any listing by country for average paid days off. USA ranks near the bottom always, happiness Canada ranks above, etc. But the mind of Americans will always just go to, yeah but we get paid more on average. Lifes a one way track, maybe they can bury you with it.

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I'm not talking about pay. Yes pay is greater in the USA, work life balance at-least from a pub-co finance and ops perspective is not.

The fact you instantly went to thinking of pay could not embody what i'm saying more. I swear to god its all Americans care about and they are willing to pick up the phone 24/7 minimal time off, sacrifice friends, family and values to get it. No thanks.

Canada generally has more leave than the USA and balance. Many EU countries have more leave and balance than Canada. Were in the middle and its an okay place to be, balance wise.

Im sitting here, paid holidays from the 15th to the 6th just for Christmas. That's not out of my 5 weeks vacation time per year, 15 special lieu days and 25 annual sick days. My American counterpart I just sat in a board meeting with is going to work until the 24th.

Anecdotal of course, but statistically just look at any listing by country for average paid days off. USA ranks near the bottom always, happiness Canada ranks above, etc. But the mind of Americans will always just go to, yeah but we get paid more on average. Lifes a one way track, maybe they can bury you with it.


A typical Canadian worker has maybe 5 more days off compared to their American counterparts. Having something like 10 weeks vacation that you have is not the norm. Normal Canadians work through the holidays like everyone else and only get extra time off if they're lucky. Because of how bad things are for Canadian companies, most aren't giving any Christmas time off or bonuses anymore compared to just a few years ago

Having a few extra days off doesn't justify destroying the entire nation and making, in some cases, only a quarter of what could be earned in the US. For my personal position, I would make approximately double my income if I was an American citizen working in America. Because *you* have a good work situation doesn't mean every other Canadian also does.

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I'm not talking about pay. Yes pay is greater in the USA, work life balance at-least from a pub-co finance and ops perspective is not.

The fact you instantly went to thinking of pay could not embody what i'm saying more. I swear to god its all Americans care about and they are willing to pick up the phone 24/7 minimal time off, sacrifice friends, family and values to get it. No thanks.

Canada generally has more leave than the USA and balance. Many EU countries have more leave and balance than Canada. Were in the middle and its an okay place to be, balance wise.

Im sitting here, paid holidays from the 15th to the 6th just for Christmas. That's not out of my 5 weeks vacation time per year, 15 special lieu days and 25 annual sick days. My American counterpart I just sat in a board meeting with is going to work until the 24th.

Anecdotal of course, but statistically just look at any listing by country for average paid days off. USA ranks near the bottom always, happiness Canada ranks above, etc. But the mind of Americans will always just go to, yeah but we get paid more on average. Lifes a one way track, maybe they can bury you with it.


Less pay if cost of living matched it would be okay. Less pay when you have a massive mortgage (as many do in Ontario), when inflation is through the roof leaving you with shrinking disposable income...no thanks, I'll take US work culture over that.

I do my 40-45 a week and have plenty sick/vacation time and like your board friend i'm going on vacation on the 24th. I probably have cushier benefits than most in the US though, and agree with you the grind is not worth it, especially in sub verticals like Investment Banking. I do like a good work life balance that's why i wasn't quick to jump into a promotion that would have fucked that. But if the choice is to work more and be financially secure or work less and have better work-life balance but be afraid you can't pay your mortgage or have family fights about finances.. IMO i'm taking the first 10/10 times.
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Some data to add to the work discussion, although Canada isn't included.

Europeans work less than Americans, and build *much* less than Americans.
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I been called a white supremacist for saying that. Reality is ; White people are the only one that build first world nations. Others destroy em.


How do you explain Singapore then? Or the rise of Argentina right now?
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How do you explain Singapore then? Or the rise of Argentina right now?


Singapore was literally built by Britain, same with Hong Kong

And Argentina is white..



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Singapore was literally built by Britain, same with Hong Kong

And Argentina is white..

https://i.imgur.com/PeCAMpa.png


Singapore was colonized be Britain. The modern prosperous version of Singapore was largely due to Lee Kuan Yew.

I don't think ethnicity is a good predictor. It's more like a special mix of culture, IQ, and history required for a country to thrive.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 17 2024 02:26pm)
Singapore was colonized be Britain. The modern prosperous version of Singapore was largely due to Lee Kuan Yew.

I don't think ethnicity is a good predictor. It's more like a special mix of culture, IQ, and history required for a country to thrive.


LKY was the 1st PM after independence from Britain. Britain built all the foundations, then LKY took over stewardship and did extremely well, with the windfall of victory in WWII & all the investment from the victorious allies. That doesn't change the fact that he took over stewardship over an already-built nation, which was built by Britain.
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