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Jul 17 2021 07:06pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jul 17 2021 08:48pm)
based hungary

if you dont that, this will happen

https://abload.de/img/883a6120-1460-48cd-9c3ijpe.jpg

the childrens theater in nürnberg has created a "menstruation parcours" to teach kids about it

needless to say that the gross presentation is not appropiate and there is gender propaganda everywhere like "all people should menstruate"

hungary is protecting childrens rights here and not the other way around


What in the fuck

People think this is appropriate for children?

how did they even gather it?

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What in the fuck

People think this is appropriate for children?


I guess 2022 is going to be even better
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Quote (duffman316 @ 18 Jul 2021 03:06)
What in the fuck

People think this is appropriate for children?

how did they even gather it?


you really fall for any old outrage bait without even trying to fact check it, huh?

how did they "gather" what?

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 18 Jul 2021 02:48)
based hungary

if you dont that, this will happen

https://abload.de/img/883a6120-1460-48cd-9c3ijpe.jpg

the childrens theater in nürnberg has created a "menstruation parcours" to teach kids about it

needless to say that the gross presentation is not appropiate and there is gender propaganda everywhere like "all people should menstruate"

hungary is protecting childrens rights here and not the other way around


"protect the children!" say the scumbags that would force children to have the babies of their rapist. "protect the children!" say the scumbags that cowardly hide behind that mantra to censor speech they don't like. "protect the children!" said every scumbag movement in history trying to withhold rights from disenfranchised groups.
it's so transparent, so lazy, and so disingenuous. not that i'm surprised our science denier sides with the xenophobic, homophobic, authoritarian governments of hungary, poland, and russia...

regarding your moronic outrage attempt, this is the reality behind the parcours: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/bayern/theater-nuernberg-theater-rund-um-die-menstruation-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-210715-99-387845

it's an installation directed at parents and youths aged 10+, aiming to de-stigmatise and explain menstruation. the "gross / inappropriate / disgusting" display, that made its rounds through conservative outrage propaganda and has bigots clutching their pearls in droves, is presenting several statements (based on a survey conducted before) that visitors can agree or disagree with by adding red liquid to a jar, including such topics as free period products...

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Quote (fender @ Jul 18 2021 12:34pm)
you really fall for any old outrage bait without even trying to fact check it, huh?

how did they "gather" what?



"protect the children!" say the scumbags that would force children to have the babies of their rapist. "protect the children!" say the scumbags that cowardly hide behind that mantra to censor speech they don't like. "protect the children!" said every scumbag movement in history trying to withhold rights from disenfranchised groups.
it's so transparent, so lazy, and so disingenuous. not that i'm surprised our science denier sides with the xenophobic, homophobic, authoritarian governments of hungary, poland, and russia...

regarding your moronic outrage attempt, this is the reality behind the parcours: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/bayern/theater-nuernberg-theater-rund-um-die-menstruation-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-210715-99-387845

it's an installation directed at parents and youths aged 10+, aiming to de-stigmatise and explain menstruation. the "gross / inappropriate / disgusting" display, that made its rounds through conservative outrage propaganda and has bigots clutching their pearls in droves, is presenting several statements (based on a survey conducted before) that visitors can agree or disagree with by adding red liquid to a jar, including such topics as free period products...


IIRC a soccer match took place in Hungary very recently that other EU countries wanted to use abuse to try and shove their woke agendas down the Hungarian people's throat by lighting up the stadium in rainbow colors like a frikking christmas tree? Isn't that correct?

Isn't Hungary a country that can have it's own government and laws just like the other EU countries? Of course they are and they made short work of that dumbfuckery and rightfully so ;)

Could you imagine other EU members telling YOU what to frikking do?

Literally shaking my head here. So Hungary is the next potential EU exit and what has Poland to do with this are they gonna be forced out of the EU as well after the UK and Hungary just because of your idiotic "progressive" woke agenda?

Do you even realize that at present the EU is heavily relying on eastern EU migrants to do your shitty jobs because guys like you don't want to get their hands dirty?

Literally shaking my head here, good luck with your "Union", it can only go downhill from here ;)
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IIRC a soccer match took place in Hungary very recently that other EU countries wanted to use abuse to try and shove their woke agendas down the Hungarian people's throat by lighting up the stadium in rainbow colors like a frikking christmas tree? Isn't that correct?

Isn't Hungary a country that can have it's own government and laws just like the other EU countries? Of course they are and they made short work of that dumbfuckery and rightfully so ;)

Could you imagine other EU members telling YOU what to frikking do?

Literally shaking my head here. So Hungary is the next potential EU exit and what has Poland to do with this are they gonna be forced out of the EU as well after the UK and Hungary just because of your idiotic "progressive" woke agenda?

Do you even realize that at present the EU is heavily relying on eastern EU migrants to do your shitty jobs because guys like you don't want to get their hands dirty?

Literally shaking my head here, good luck with your "Union", it can only go downhill from here ;)


hungary and poland are massive drains on the EU budget, and their right wing governments are undermining basic democratic principles, threatening and curtailing the rights of millions of citizens, predominantly women, immigrants, and the LGBTQ community. i'd happily see them leave and complete their transformation into right wing authoritarian shitholes.

and no, you're wrong about the football match. it was in munich, which happens to be in germany, not hungary. the munich stadium has a feature which allows it to be illuminated in different colours. munich city officials and the DFB (german football association) wanted to illuminate it in rainbow colours, considering it was pride month and fitting with UEFA's official stance on inclusion - but hungarian officials felt mortally offended by a bunch of lights, and used their connections with UEFA leadership to prevent that, claiming rainbows were a provocation to their fragile manhood.

can you imagine some offended bigots telling other EU members what to "frikking do" in their own stadiums? oh right, of course you can. and not only that, now that you know the real story, you're probably inclined to celebrate it - completely unaware how your ignorance accidentally made a great argument AGAINST the narrative you were trying to push there, LMAO. imagine having such a fragile masculinity that you can't deal with the idea that gay people should not be discriminated against. pathetic really...
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Jul 18 2021 06:11am
Quote (fender @ 18 Jul 2021 13:38)
hungary and poland are massive drains on the EU budget

Polands economic growth is so massive that they will receive significantly less EU funding in the 2021-2027 fiscal period than they did in the previous 2014-2020 cycle.
Furthermore, they are projected to become net contributors to the EU budget, i.e. their contributions to the EU budget will exceed what they get back form the EU in various funding and subsidies, from 2027 onward.

Here's an article on the subject from the German public media, whose default stance is the extremely europhile and Poland-critical:
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/welt/osteuropa/ostblogger/polen-eu-geld-102.html


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and their right wing governments are undermining basic democratic principles, threatening and curtailing the rights of millions of citizens, predominantly women, immigrants, and the LGBTQ community. i'd happily see them leave and complete their transformation into right wing authoritarian shitholes.

Wrong, it is the EU and the liberal west of Europe which has, in recent years, been trying to expand the scope of various civil and human rights, far beyond what these laws and principles were understood to mean pre-circa 2010 or so. Poland, Hungary and other Eastern European countries refuse to go along with it, causing the EU and wokesters to throw a fit.

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and no, you're wrong about the football match. it was in munich, which happens to be in germany, not hungary. the munich stadium has a feature which allows it to be illuminated in different colours. munich city officials and the DFB (german football association) wanted to illuminate it in rainbow colours, considering it was pride month and fitting with UEFA's official stance on inclusion - but hungarian officials felt mortally offended by a bunch of lights, and used their connections with UEFA leadership to prevent that, claiming rainbows were a provocation to their fragile manhood.

I really doubt that Hungarian officials have that kind of sway over the UEFA. I think it has more to do with several major sponsors of UEFA and the 2020 Euros: Gazprom, Qatar Airways and Azerbaijan, which are all decidedly anti-LGBTQ.

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hungary and poland are massive drains on the EU budget, and their right wing governments are undermining basic democratic principles, threatening and curtailing the rights of millions of citizens, predominantly women, immigrants, and the LGBTQ community. i'd happily see them leave and complete their transformation into right wing authoritarian shitholes.

and no, you're wrong about the football match. it was in munich, which happens to be in germany, not hungary. the munich stadium has a feature which allows it to be illuminated in different colours. munich city officials and the DFB (german football association) wanted to illuminate it in rainbow colours, considering it was pride month and fitting with UEFA's official stance on inclusion - but hungarian officials felt mortally offended by a bunch of lights, and used their connections with UEFA leadership to prevent that, claiming rainbows were a provocation to their fragile manhood.

can you imagine some offended bigots telling other EU members what to "frikking do" in their own stadiums? oh right, of course you can. and not only that, now that you know the real story, you're probably inclined to celebrate it - completely unaware how your ignorance accidentally made a great argument AGAINST the narrative you were trying to push there, LMAO. imagine having such a fragile masculinity that you can't deal with the idea that gay people should not be discriminated against. pathetic really...


I was talking about Hungary, replying to you because you were talking about Hungary, therefore I wasn't talking about me. It had clearly nothing to do with me, although I'd obviously prefer live in a free and fair society where people are equal and minorities do not have special privileges like "pride" events that put vulgar behavior on a pedestal, imagine strait people parading through town dressed like that and being praised for it, lol. Or where black criminals are no longer criminals because they're black.

I will forever vote against that BS and from what I see in your country many do the same which the likes of you can only blame themselves for, LMAO
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Jul 2021 14:11)
Polands economic growth is so massive that they will receive significantly less EU funding in the 2021-2027 fiscal period than they did in the previous 2014-2020 cycle.
Furthermore, they are projected to become net contributors to the EU budget, i.e. their contributions to the EU budget will exceed what they get back form the EU in various funding and subsidies, from 2027 onward.

Here's an article on the subject from the German public media, whose default stance is the extremely europhile and Poland-critical:
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/welt/osteuropa/ostblogger/polen-eu-geld-102.html



Wrong, it is the EU and the liberal west of Europe which has, in recent years, been trying to expand the scope of various civil and human rights, far beyond what these laws and principles were understood to mean pre-circa 2010 or so. Poland, Hungary and other Eastern European countries refuse to go along with it, causing the EU and wokesters to throw a fit.


I really doubt that Hungarian officials have that kind of sway over the UEFA. I think it has more to do with several major sponsors of UEFA and the 2020 Euros: Gazprom, Qatar Airways and Azerbaijan, which are all decidedly anti-LGBTQ.


poland and hungary have been the main recipients of EU money for years, if not decades. MASSIVE budget drains. your attempts to portray that fact in a more positive light don't make the statement any less true...



and no, hungary and poland's right wing governments are not merely "rejecting wokeism", or whatever you want to call the opposition against the discrimination of people based on race / religion / sexuality / gender... they are actively ROLLING BACK protections and rights of women and minorities, pushing laws, changes to the judicial system, and even the constitution in order to consolidate power. now obviously i'm not surprised that you bootlickers are trying to defend those authoritarians - but you'll have to come up with a better excuse to justify those blatant power grabs of religious zealots and bigots.

concerning orban's fragility: the dude canceled his planned visit to that very game because of criticism of his anti LGBTQ legislation, ffs. concerning his UEFA connections and influence: https://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/em_2021/kommentar-von-hugo-mueller-vogg-im-bett-mit-orban-regenbogen-debatte-zeigt-die-ganze-verlogenheit-der-uefa_id_13427436.html
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"protect the children!" say the scumbags that would force children to have the babies of their rapist. "protect the children!" say the scumbags that cowardly hide behind that mantra to censor speech they don't like. "protect the children!" said every scumbag movement in history trying to withhold rights from disenfranchised groups.
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no sane person and definitely not me made any claims like that

classic fenderp discussion style, make up some radical shit and then throw it at me

its not working mate

Quote (Djunior @ Jul 18 2021 12:57pm)
IIRC a soccer match took place in Hungary very recently that other EU countries wanted to use abuse to try and shove their woke agendas down the Hungarian people's throat by lighting up the stadium in rainbow colors like a frikking christmas tree? Isn't that correct?

Isn't Hungary a country that can have it's own government and laws just like the other EU countries? Of course they are and they made short work of that dumbfuckery and rightfully so ;)

Could you imagine other EU members telling YOU what to frikking do?

Literally shaking my head here. So Hungary is the next potential EU exit and what has Poland to do with this are they gonna be forced out of the EU as well after the UK and Hungary just because of your idiotic "progressive" woke agenda?

Do you even realize that at present the EU is heavily relying on eastern EU migrants to do your shitty jobs because guys like you don't want to get their hands dirty?

Literally shaking my head here, good luck with your "Union", it can only go downhill from here ;)


fender cant deal with sovereign countries, he wants a soviet union style dictatorship from brussels and we are already halfway there

poland and hungary are the last places that are not crazy and want to protect their people

by the way, LGBT whatever people are actually safer in hungary than they are here :rofl:

Quote (fender @ Jul 18 2021 03:15pm)
poland and hungary have been the main recipients of EU money for years, if not decades. MASSIVE budget drains. your attempts to portray that fact in a more positive light don't make the statement any less true...

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/18794.jpeg

and no, hungary and poland's right wing governments are not merely "rejecting wokeism", or whatever you want to call the opposition against the discrimination of people based on race / religion / sexuality / gender... they are actively ROLLING BACK protections and rights of women and minorities, pushing laws, changes to the judicial system, and even the constitution in order to consolidate power. now obviously i'm not surprised that you bootlickers are trying to defend those authoritarians - but you'll have to come up with a better excuse to justify those blatant power grabs of religious zealots and bigots.

concerning orban's fragility: the dude canceled his planned visit to that very game because of criticism of his anti LGBTQ legislation, ffs. concerning his UEFA connections and influence: https://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/em_2021/kommentar-von-hugo-mueller-vogg-im-bett-mit-orban-regenbogen-debatte-zeigt-die-ganze-verlogenheit-der-uefa_id_13427436.html


italy as a net contributor rofl

alright, deduct the dozens of BILLIONS we are donating to them right now for no reason and that half a TRILLION in target 2 debt they owe germany from that

they are a broke sinkhole

poland and hungary did indeed get a lot of money, but its money that flows back since both countries have a positive economy

its called an investment
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Jul 18 2021 08:21am
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italy as a net contributor rofl

alright, deduct the dozens of BILLIONS we are donating to them right now for no reason and that half a TRILLION in target 2 debt they owe germany from that

they are a broke sinkhole

poland and hungary did indeed get a lot of money, but its money that flows back since both countries have a positive economy

its called an investment


Srsly, just go bitch on your own shithole, your attacks are pathetics and you have absolutely zero argument.
Btw want poland and hungary ? you can take these fucking shits.
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