I'm pretty sure the Democrats are already doing that which is why most analysts think the effects will be minimal. This is a good read: http://brightlinewatch.org/still-miles-apart-americans-and-the-state-of-u-s-democracy-half-a-year-into-the-biden-presidency/

the democraps screaming in the streets Burning Looting and Murdering calling ev1 a nazi but republicans are satan. One thing we get out of it is how funny it all is, what a circus honk honk

1 mil border apprehension during the first 6 months of Biden's presidency sounds really bad to me. Voters will only prioritize the economy if there's a crisis, or if one of the parties offers some really good/bad economic policy that voters care about. E.g. the staple of Dem campaigning: "the GOP wants to take your healthcare away". Which was really salient in 2018 because the GOP had indeed tried to take healthcare away just one year prior to the midterms...

The potency of immigration as an issue was on display in 2016. Many white voters who are not wingnuts or outright racists are okay with immigration, they are also okay with Dems arguing that minorities must be helped. But I really don't see how it goes over well with any non-cucked white voters when the Dem messaging essentially consists of two pillars: 1. "we must redistribute wealth, opportunity and privilege from white to non-white people" and 2. "let's bring in 2 million plus non-whites per year".




To be fair, it's hard to believe in democracy in a country where one side is constantly importing new voters to bolster its base. The backdrop of American politics is that large-scale immigration - both legal and illegal - has led to a strong diversification of the electorate which causes the Dems to constantly get stronger without having to persuade any of the existing American voters while the GOP is constantly playing defense. Such trends had to become toxic for the body politic sooner or later.



Imagine an America where tens of millions of arch-conservative white Christians from other parts of the world have been coming in for decades, the GOP has adopted a platform which is increasingly toxic to liberals, they are getting ever more fundamentalist in their policies and ideology, but keep winning national elections anyway because all the imported white Christian voters give them a structural majority. The GOP keeps salivating at their imminent impenetrable majority and about "diluting" the voters of the other side. And when liberals suggest that we should maybe tone down the influx of Christian fundamentalists, the GOP calls them intolerant bigots and encourages their corporate allies to silence anyone who speaks out against it.

In this scenario - do you really think that liberals/Democrats would still be steadfast in their belief that American democracy is "fair" and pass up on tactics for gaining an advantage?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 27 2021 02:51pm

Your post which opened this discussion was saying that the midterms will be a wipeout because of Republican voters suppression, regardless of the job the Biden admin does until then. Implying that GOP voter suppression will be so massive that no kind of good governance by Democrats or high approval numbers for Biden can overcome it. That's a darn radical statement to make when you think about it.

So no, I did not misunderstand you - you're just being offended because I'm calling you out on it.

Ah, yes. The mythical black person who cannot vote due to those meanie republicans & their voter oppression

Why is it always a white liberal crying about this

Except I didn't say that. You read a ton into it that I didn't say

I'm pretty sure that Democrats bringing in immigrants to bolster their ranks is nonsensical. We naturalize about a million immigrants per year while the number of people who become of voting age every 2 years increases by 7 million. Immigrants are far more likely to vote Republican than young people because they are more conservative as well. Maybe immigrants help the Democrats at the margins a bit but the bread and butter of the liberal voting bloc is to make it easier for young people to vote. It's been that way for decades.

Here's what you said:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82747482&f=119&p=572294082

How exactly can this post of yours be interpreted in any other way than you saying that regardless of policy, the Dems will get wiped out at the midterms because of Republican voter suppression? The implication of which is of course that you consider these Republican voter suppression efforts to have a very large effect, not just a miniscule one.

I think you mean the black voter who can't sit in line for 5 hours to vote and now Republicans are making it illegal to bring them water.

I absolutely think they will have a large effect.

That's a far cry from what you were saying I said lol.