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Nov 11 2023 01:27pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 11 Nov 2023 20:58)
It's becoming more and more obvious that less and less people want of these neo-zonists fanatics who are jeopardizing real jews security all around the world.


Zionism ceased to exist the moment Israel established.
Now zionism means people who wants Israel to exist

Here is Son of Hamas telling you the truth you dont want to hear
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNfq8o3V/
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Nov 11 2023 01:31pm
Quote (Many_Names @ 11 Nov 2023 20:27)
Zionism ceased to exist the moment Israel established.
Now zionism means people who wants Israel to exist

Here is Son of Hamas telling you the truth you dont want to hear
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNfq8o3V/


It's all in the wiki dude:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Zionism

Neo-Zionism (Hebrew: ניאו-ציונות) is a right-wing, nationalistic and religious ideology.

DING DONG !


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I WANT THE SAME COOL SHIRTS !!!



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 11 2023 01:57pm
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Nov 11 2023 01:49pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 11 2023 11:27am)
Zionism ceased to exist the moment Israel established.
Now zionism means people who wants Israel to exist

Here is Son of Hamas telling you the truth you dont want to hear
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNfq8o3V/


zionism hastened and grew more popular at that moment, it hasnt slowed down since. it really picked up under Netanyahu as its been his dream since the 1990's to eradicate all non-jews in Palestine

read the insane shit he said 6 years ago at the UN, the man is completely deranged and is the biggest threat to Israel's security

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-full-remarks-at-un-general-assembly/

how does it feel to live under the most right wing, ethno-fascist government your country has ever had?

This post was edited by gnarjay on Nov 11 2023 01:49pm
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Nov 11 2023 02:24pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 11 2023 05:16am)
Can someone try answering these yes/no questions, and if any of the answers are "no", explain briefly your reasoning (without deflecting, thanks):

1. Israel has oppressed Palestinians for decades. yes/no
2. Israel has stolen Palestinian land for decades. yes/no
3. Israel does not give Palestinians equal rights yes/no
4. Israel has killed Palestinians for decades at a ratio far in excess of 1:1. yes/no
5. Israel is bombing hospitals and schools yes/no
6. Israel propped up Hamas, and is therefore complicit in anything Hamas has done. yes/no
7. Israel is employing collective punishment on Palestinians yes/no

If someone wants to do a similar yes/no questions, I will gladly answer them in return, I will even answer them first.


1. No, Israel has provided a bounty of food, water, infrastructure, supplies to the Palestinians consistently for decades such that even Gaza has an obesity problem (as well an an explosion of the Palestinian population)
2. No, there was never any Palestinian land to begin with
3. Yes, they are not Israeli citizens
4. No, Palestinians have killed themselves en-masse through aggression
5. No, these are objects of perfidy
6. No, unless you consider unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza and providing Gaza civilians with food, water, infrastructure, and supplies as propping them up
7. No, they are not targetting civilians who are not verified as being Hamas belligerents

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 11 2023 02:27pm
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Nov 11 2023 02:34pm
Everyone should read the zionist teachings...

You uhh,.. May want to read them.

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Nov 11 2023 02:50pm
It's more than embarrassing.
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Nov 12 2023 05:09am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 12 2023 09:32am)
Israel did it.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 12 2023 09:46am)
You just did an antisemitism sir

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 10:14am)
true. "Accusing Jews as a people ("Israel") of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews is defined as antisemitic". If he had sad "the Israeli government" it would not have been antisemitic.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 12 2023 10:58am)
I accused Israel, not Jews. I think Arab Israelis did it. With help from Joe Biden.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 11:00am)
ye thats the definition of antisemitism, you cant accuse Israel (as to do so is antisemitic), this is merely a point of order, understand I am not attacking you here, i have used the word Israel in that topic as well, and that also constitutes antisemitism. if this site had more visible moderators this point could/should have been reinforced. using the term Israel is just being lazy. when referring to Israel its safer (and not antisemitic) to instead say "the Israeli government". obviously, you do you.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 12 2023 11:02am)
I don't believe Israel and "Jews" are interchangeable words. Do you?


I already posted this. here it is again:

https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

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It does not matter what you or I believe, if you want the answer to your question ask some of the Israeli's in the Israel topic (this topic).

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 12 2023 11:11am)
"Accusing Jews as a people ("Israel") of being responsible for real"

When I wrote Israel, why did you assume Jews?


I didnt. remember it does not matter what you or I think, using blanket statements "Israel" is antisemitic.

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in case you missed the above.
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Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 11:09am)
I already posted this. here it is again:

https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

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It does not matter what you or I believe, if you want the answer to your question ask some of the Israeli's in the Israel topic (this topic).

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I didnt. remember it does not matter what you or I think, using blanket statements "Israel" is antisemitic.


It is not anti-Semitic. When I say Israel, I am not referencing Jews.

We all refer to the United States government as the "united states" It is clearly implied. So why should Israel get any special dispensation?

You did not? Then why did you write Israel in brackets as if you consider that word interchangeable with the phrase you used, "jews as a people"
"Accusing Jews as a people ("Israel") of being responsible for real"


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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 12 2023 11:33am)
It is not anti-Semitic. When I say Israel, I am not referencing Jews.

We all refer to the United States government as the "united states" It is clearly implied. So why should Israel get any special dispensation?

You did not? Then why did you write Israel in brackets as if you consider that word interchangeable with the phrase you used, "jews as a people"
"Accusing Jews as a people ("Israel") of being responsible for real"


you completely misread what i said.
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