You said they never verified it, which allows you to now weasel your way out of anything they did. Here where words have meanings the CIA looking at the presented evidence and coming to their own conclusion is a verification.

It's really obvious what you're doing dude. You started with the conclusion that it's all bullshit, didn't follow for several years, and now that you have to actually look into the issue you're working backwards to prove your conclusion.

I didn't start with any conclusion. I read the report, and I watched the hearings. The only reason the "Intelligence Community" line was so overused is because Clapper was the former director of national intelligence. Which is a big fat so what. Again, this is a man who's list of lies is longer than your... ego. There's no weaseling here. He indicated that they had reason to believe there was collusion. When pressed, he stated very clearly in March 2017 that they had "No evidence." When pressed, under oath, he verified, "No evidence." From that point forward, his story did not change. So, you claim you've "followed for years" but you can't site any evidence that "the intelligence agencies" ever had, found, or analyzed.

So to recap, the only actual "evidence" are claims made by companies on the DNC payroll and claims in a completely debunked dossier (paid for by the DNC), and claims by a career liar (who ironically got a job at CNN after resigning). You say I didn't follow this, but how could I (or anyone) NOT follow it? It's all there was to watch for 3 years. "What new bullshit are they going to claim today?"

Now, Dominion Voting Systems is a foreign entity, and somehow this foreign entity's proprietary voting machines, which have been demonstrated to be incredibly insecure, ended up being used in US elections. How does that not open the door to foreign interference in US elections? Until you give a real answer here, I'm going to continue repeating it. This is real, it's fact, and there's none of your bullshit straw grasping. Don't care about Trump, or Biden, or any of that. Just explain to me how these specific machines are NOT a threat to the integrity of our elections, and the sovereignty of our nation.

The guy was denying the fact that Russia interfered in our election, so I was correcting the record. They hacked the DNC, and released the material.

It's actually not true that it's unrelated to the central claim of Russiagate, because the hacked material was disseminated strategically by Wikileaks, and Trump officials were communicating with Wikileaks throughout the campaign. It's very likely that Trump spoke to Roger Stone about Wikileaks during the campaign. So, essentially that makes these officials at least a small part of the conspiracy.

Yes, I know, media bad. Cool story bro.

It's a really good example of how the right-wing lives in a completely upside-down world. There's so much incriminating behavior by Trump and his associates surrounding the investigation... including Trump pursuing a lucrative real estate deal in Moscow during the campaign, trying to obstruct the investigation, and the freaking campaign chairman sharing internal campaign polling data with a Russian intelligence operative. And they still believe the investigation was unwarranted, and Trump was severely wronged by it. It's mind-boggling.

Please answer a few questions for me:
1. What is the proof that Russia "hacked the DNC"? Clapper testified under oath that the intelligence community had no evidence that he'd seen. The only evidence given is a discredited dossier and a company paid by the DNC. These are not credible sources. Assange insisted and continues to insist his source was not from Russia.
2. Let's assume you magic up some proof that Russia "hacked the dnc" when Mueller failed to do so in 3 years. So what? How is that interference in the US election? The wikileaks dumps (DNC and Clinton emails both) were all vetted true. Telling the truth about candidates is not "interfering". There's no fraudulent ballots, no tampering, nothing. Is your claim that telling the truth about politicians, or learning about the truth of politicians from their own communications is bad? Do you not believe that voters should be kept informed of the intentions of the people they're electing?
3. What "conspiracy"? Like, seriously, what conspiracy? If the DNC and Clinton don't want to get caught being corrupt garbage, maybe they should try not being corrupt garbage.

Meanwhile...

Dominion Voting Systems is a foreign entity, and somehow this foreign entity's proprietary voting machines, which have been demonstrated to be incredibly insecure, ended up being used in US elections. How does that not open the door to foreign interference in US elections? Until you give a real answer here, I'm going to continue repeating it. This is real, it's fact, and there's none of your bullshit straw grasping. Don't care about Trump, or Clinton, or Biden, or any of that. Just explain to me how these specific machines are NOT a threat to the integrity of our elections, and the sovereignty of our nation.

https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1336186861891452929?s=19

This passes for a political party in a western country?

While I know it's fashionable to pretend Wikileaks is an arm of Russian intelligence, it's not true, and certainly wasn't the perception back at a time where they were mostly famous for publishing whistleblowers.

according to that anti-American racist wannabe thug ‘icepeon’ whistleblowers like Snowden and Assange who reveal purposeful government harm against its citizens are, but those who make up unconfirmed second-hand stories are to be believed above everything else in the universe

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While the electoral college votes are confirming the obvious...


https://twitter.com/RepPaulMitchell/status/1338599898141356034

A GOP Congressman leaving the party. An interesting letter, even though the guy voted for Trump in 2020 and any rational person could've predicted this outcome if Trump lost.

Almost like he's been saying he would do this since 2015 if he lost either election