you're right. how embarrassing... for the EU. you never hear of an american aircraft being hijacked for example. just doesn't happen, because they aren't "weak" like that. very intelligent observation there, iampoo.

definitely true, i dont see putin stopping a european backed revolution though

the days of russia sending tanks to stop an uprise are over



hi fender, i really missed you and i hope you had a nice weekend

your comment is unfortunately not related, we arent talking about islamic terrorists here

hey ampoo, i didn't miss your simplistic takes at all, but i still hope you had a nice weekend and were able to celebrate bayern's title win.

regarding this topic, i know you aren't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, but failing basic reading comprehension like that is still somewhat disappointing tbh. the reference i made there was about hijacked aircraft, not islamist terrorists.
you acted like it's somehow embarrassing for the EU to have this happen, implying that a more competent / belligerent / confrontational approach to foreign policy could have prevented it. i was merely illustrating how absurd that suggestion is, and that it's obvious you don't have an actual argument here, just a low-IQ EU bashing spin that doesn't even begin to make sense. feel free to address that if you can, no need to keep strawmanning me in order to dodge.

hope you celebrated the mainz masterclass as well, biggest escape i have seen in my life

on topic: this plane was hijacked to make a poltical arrest and not a suicide attack

do you really think lukaschenko would do this, if he could expect us to starve his little shithole into a riot that would end with him hanging from a tree?

no, he did it, because he knows that nothing except some symbolic action will happen

come on, nobody would be so stupid and do something like this for some blogger or whatever, if he had to expect massive retaliation

just switch the roles, would we hijack a russian plane like that? never

of course i am talking about the long term here, europe has been soft for too long and this is what happens

he didn't expect "massive retaliation" (whatever you mean by that - in my book the backlash and announced measures https://www.ft.com/content/147532bc-8f98-406c-807b-748520be6633 are rather significant) because what you probably regard as "massive retaliation" (literally starving millions of innocents / maybe an assassination and regime change attempt / can i get a "threat of war" even?) would probably only play into his cards and feed anti-western sentiments already pushed by state propaganda in his nation.

"would we hijack a (belo)russian plane like that?", implying they are therefore the example we should follow, really reveals where you're coming from, and i can only say: no, of course we wouldn't do that, and that is a GOOD thing. not because we're oh so afraid of russia, or because we don't have "awesome leaders" like the murderer putin, but because we aren't a de facto dictatorship, we respect international law, and we live in a society where you're allowed to criticise your leaders without getting arrested. so i really don't see how this question helps you make the case of how the EU was embarrassed by this. but it sure sounds like you're in favour of some old-fashioned cold war sabre rattling to solve diplomatic incidents, which i think is insane.

also, didn't you belong to the faction insisting it was our meddling with ukraine that made poor little putin invade them, basically blaming the EU for russia's annexation of crimea? but when it comes to belarus, you're suddenly in favour of meddling to force a regime change? how would that be different? i mean, let's just be honest here, that contradiction pretty much gives the already obvious away: you don't even have an actual opinion, some principled stance on that issue - the only consistency is bashing the EU for whatever they do, lol.


last and most important point: the term "escape" sounds a bit like dumb luck and last second bailout to me. what svensson did with the team after taking charge, however, was a proper turnaround. just to be clear, we absolutely deserved to be were we were in the first half of the season. we played terrible football, and our results reflected that. we didn't even remotely resemble a team worthy of playing in the bundesliga. i genuinely thought there was no way we could avoid relegation, and deservedly so. the last few months we looked like a completely different outfit though - we played with purpose, a clear tactical concept, and reinvigorated mentally and somehow even physically. fortunately the results (though always close, we basically never won by more than one goal iirc) showed that, and for this season at least, i'd proudly claim we earned our spot in the league. next season will likely be rough again, but you can bet your ass i had a couple of beers to celebrate. it's basically the closest by boys will ever get to a "title" anyway, lol.

oh please, dont give me the moral bs again, my example was just to show that we would never attempt that because of massive consequences and not because we are such great people

principled stances are stupid, you have to be smart and do what needs to be done and the west (EU) continues to take the L

the differences between ukraine and belarus:

belarus is an insignificant sinkhole governed by a dictator for many years, who is using the full textbook of oppression and if we take our human rights approach seriously, we should help with an overthrow

and that possibly includes some short term suffering to make way for a better future, the alternative is eternal stalemate

this dictator wont get talked out of there by the likes of von der leyen

ukraine is significant however and it was a stable state, obviously oligarchy and corruption were the standard there (and still are), but it was stable and a neutral zone between NATO and russia, which was an understanding between the powers

however the west then supported an extremely violent insurrection to regime change, when the president at the time had only a few months left in office

all this to force a more pro EU government and prevent a new pro russian one (only theoretical since the elections were incoming)

this resulted in the ongoing civil war and putin taking crimea to "protect russian citizens"

i will take any bet, that putin had his eyes on crimea for years and what we did for him was christmas and birthday at the same time

the west could have just kept the status quo and dont tell me current government is any better

since you praised how morally superior we are, because we dont hijack planes

nope, we start civil wars with thousands of deaths, dont act like you dont know that all this maidan bullshit wasnt funded by the west

i am bashing the EU, because it fails to represent our interests at every turn and the world powers around us grab more influence at our expense

the strategists in the states, russia and china are laughing their asses off

we are losing every single battle out there and the future consequences will be severe

at least not for me, because i am outta here soon

p.s: escape has nothing to do with luck imo, leicester fans call their season before being champs the "great escape" when they have won like 9 out of the last 10 games

its a 100% positive term for an unlikely turnaround and lets be real, with 7 points for christmas you 99,9% relegated

Good news, and explains why our hospital admissions haven't increased much while cases have, but the final easing of restrictions in the UK has been delayed until 19th July. Pubs are still open indoors so we're about 97% of the way there already, it's just theatres and nightclubs left

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