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Jul 18 2016 04:49pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 15 2016 07:37pm)


Amusingly it wasn't hard to find because it links to the exact same, singular interview that I myself referenced dummy, that's the whole point. That's just an amen corner where some nobody praises theoretical soon-to-come ideas, on the basis that that the person who'll come up with them said in an interview that he thinks they'll be good ideas. Even your amen corner confirms what I told you earlier in that their proposal isn't complete. Arguing to the contrary makes you sound clueless as hell.

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Some things are better off dead, especially if your job is worthless and doesn't produce anything.


This makes you sound clueless as hell, too.
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Jul 18 2016 05:44pm
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illegal immigration is still immigration

Illegal immigration today is the way my ancestors got here so I don't really care about it and a good portion of people in Ohio and maybe a majority aren't worried about immigration as a whole whether illegal or not.

Most people in Ohio are worried about the drug epidemic and lack of economic growth in cities that used to rely on manufacturing industries.


No, there was not MASS poverty and 310milliom people living here when 'our' ancestors came.
Illegal is exactly what it means.
Illegal and breaking the law.
Period.

Don't most drugs come through our southern border?

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Jul 18 2016 05:53pm
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No, there was not MASS poverty and 310milliom people living here when 'our' ancestors came.
Illegal is exactly what it means.
Illegal and breaking the law.
Period.

Don't most drugs come through our southern border?


Your ancestors came and distributed greed like cancer in a place that was occupied by people that weren't perfect but had a strong stance against greed.

These people are coming to earn bread not steal it or rape it.

We have supply and they have demand. Want them gone? Encourage your white boy friends that were fortunate enough to be born here to work those jobs rather than pretend they are too good for them and then bitch about there being no jobs

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Jul 18 2016 06:05pm
Quote (Pollster @ Jul 18 2016 06:49pm)
Amusingly it wasn't hard to find because it links to the exact same, singular interview that I myself referenced dummy, that's the whole point. That's just an amen corner where some nobody praises theoretical soon-to-come ideas, on the basis that that the person who'll come up with them said in an interview that he thinks they'll be good ideas. Even your amen corner confirms what I told you earlier in that their proposal isn't complete. Arguing to the contrary makes you sound clueless as hell.



This makes you sound clueless as hell, too.


The man who won D-Day said plans are useless. Take a walk off a cliff.

The world would be exactly the same without you.
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Jul 18 2016 06:12pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 18 Jul 2016 16:05)
The world would be exactly the same without you.


I have this terrible condition where I start to break out in hives if I'm exposed to too much irony and I'm afraid I might go into full anaphylactic shock if you don't stop saying shit like this. :(
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Jul 18 2016 06:23pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 18 2016 08:12pm)
I have this terrible condition where I start to break out in hives if I'm exposed to too much irony and I'm afraid I might go into full anaphylactic shock if you don't stop saying shit like this. :(


Pics or didn't happen.
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Jul 18 2016 06:28pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 18 2016 05:05pm)
The man who won D-Day said plans are useless. Take a walk off a cliff.

The world would be exactly the same without you.


So, as expected, you were just totally bullshitting the whole time and didn't have the slightest idea what you were talking about. I mean that kind of thing might fly when you're talking to some of the other people here who also don't have a clue what they're talking about but it's the height of stupidity to try it with me.

And no, obviously the country would be in a pretty bad spot if most of the people who actually have the institutional knowledge required to make the federal government operate just decided to pick up and leave, or were forced out (in Trump's case). You don't understand the threat that that poses because sadly you don't understand how government actually works. We go to great lengths to try to prevent those types of "brain drains" and whatever could cause them, because we know what it would to throw the work onto less-capable, fewer people. It isn't theoretical, we just watched the abject failure that was the Bush administration struggle with this.

To give you an example: I saw you dummies upthread talking about abolishing the IRS. That is a singularly terrible idea, and only clueless, uninformed people think that's a good idea, but when you move the IRS' operation to fewer people, who are less qualified, you only get a worse product. This is of course precisely why the Republicans deliberately keep doing that even though we don't have a reason to: they want people to hate the IRS because that outcome suits their ideological interest, even though the product, inferior tax preparation, doesn't fit our needs as a country.
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Jul 18 2016 06:30pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 19 2016 01:12am)
I have this terrible condition where I start to break out in hives if I'm exposed to too much irony and I'm afraid I might go into full anaphylactic shock if you don't stop saying shit like this. :(


I'm afraid you have bigger health problems than hives. Weighing 260+ lbs can't possibly be healthy.
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Jul 18 2016 06:34pm
Quote (Pollster @ Jul 18 2016 08:28pm)
So, as expected, you were just totally bullshitting the whole time and didn't have the slightest idea what you were talking about. I mean that kind of thing might fly when you're talking to some of the other people here who also don't have a clue what they're talking about but it's the height of stupidity to try it with me.

And no, obviously the country would be in a pretty bad spot if most of the people who actually have the institutional knowledge required to make the federal government operate just decided to pick up and leave, or were forced out (in Trump's case). You don't understand the threat that that poses because sadly you don't understand how government actually works. We go to great lengths to try to prevent those types of "brain drains" and whatever could cause them, because we know what it would to throw the work onto less-capable, fewer people. It isn't theoretical, we just watched the abject failure that was the Bush administration struggle with this.

To give you an example: I saw you dummies upthread talking about abolishing the IRS. That is a singularly terrible idea, and only clueless, uninformed people think that's a good idea, but when you move the IRS' operation to fewer people, who are less qualified, you only get a worse product. This is of course precisely why the Republicans deliberately keep doing that even though we don't have a reason to: they want people to hate the IRS because that outcome suits their ideological interest, even though the product, inferior tax preparation, doesn't fit our needs as a country.


You're cherrypicking data and being an immature alarmist.

Go back to being an ineffectual used-car salesman for politicians.
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Jul 18 2016 06:42pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 18 2016 05:34pm)
You're cherrypicking data and being an immature alarmist.

Go back to being an ineffectual used-car salesman for politicians.


Not sure what you were referring to with the data bit, obviously Trump hasn't released a plan on student debt (a fact you still stupidly disagree with) so there's nothing to cherry-pick. We only have the interview with the self-praised ideas. As far as the IRS goes the data on that is pretty comprehensive (and damning), and I'd be happy to segue to that if you'd rather talk about it.

It was stupid to try to bullshit your way through a discussion with someone who knows vastly more about these campaigns than you do. Don't do it unless your sole aim is to embarrass yourself. What's so unreasonable about that? Laughably trying (and failing) to invoke my career just makes you look like even more of a clown than the poor decision of trying to invent policy for the Trump campaign.
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