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Mar 10 2021 03:20pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 10 2021 02:53pm)
i love how you're too much of a coward to address me directly, but just can't help talking shit about me, every chance you get, with your really weird little nazi fantasies...

if you genuinely believe those were just "incidental" occurrences, you should brush up on your history. there's plenty of evidence that suggests otherwise, even though it's apparently not very popular to teach actual history in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd_nVCWPgiA


Whoa there hypocrite. You might want to walk back that one, Mr passive aggressive.
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Mar 10 2021 03:23pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 10 2021 03:20pm)
Whoa there hypocrite. You might want to walk back that one, Mr passive aggressive.


or walk back to Switzerland, where his coward grand father ran to, bag of gold coins ready for deposit.
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Mar 10 2021 03:25pm
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or walk back to Switzerland, where his coward grand father ran to, bag of gold coins teeth ready for deposit.


FTFY
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Mar 10 2021 03:26pm
Quote (fender @ 10 Mar 2021 13:04)
considering that is coming from a race-obsessed american bigot, who just tried to whitewash the native american genocide as "giving freezing people a blanket", your words have absolutely no meaning...


Several points:

1. "Americans" did not give natives smallpox infested blankets. Europeans did. Perhaps if you bothered to read history, you'd remember that "America" didn't exist prior to 1776.
2. European colonists died from smallpox as well. It was a common thing. They weren't intentionally passing blankets used by people who died of smallpox to the natives. Nope, sorry, when a person got smallpox during that era, their clothing and bedding was typically burned, and depending on the specific local, possibly their residence as well.
3. Genocide is a willful act. A race dying out due to a disease is not a genocide. The Native Americans did not genocide French Whores by spreading their syphilis to colonials who in turn passed it along to brothels throughout Europe.
4. Spanish Indian wars and French Indian wars and English Indian wars and Dutch Indian wars were common place. Like, seriously, tribes would ally with whichever side would help them decimate enemy tribes. Likewise after the US was founded, the American Army was enlisted to help in tribal disputes all the time, then blamed for the outcome.

Effectively, you're doing the same nonsensical bullshit you always do. Pointing the finger at everyone else about not being open enough to the "other" when you are a part of a society that literally killed millions of it's own citizens. Were there true American atrocities committed against some tribes? Sure! Were those tribes "American citizens"? In most cases, no. There were a few cases where they were. But American expansion west was fraught with war between tribes and settlers/the army. They were not our citizens. They were enemies to be conquered. Again, being German, you should know all about that. What were the death tolls due to German expansionism again? Forget the mere 7 million or so of your own citizens. 20 million plus, all said and done, wasn't it, for low end estimates? How about the German tribes continual sacking and burning of Rome? On the flipside, high end estimates regarding native American deaths due to actions of the US Government run between 1 and 5 million (closer to 1 million if you discount smallpox and other disease-related deaths). Native Americans who were "American" aka considered people of the US? Somewhere between 100K-500K. Those are the numbers of this "mass murder" that was mostly "War".

The only way "genocide" holds up at all is through your filthy "blanket" theory. And why the fuck would you post a Stephan M. video? You want to point the finger at other people for being "bigots" and try to use as a source a true ethnonationalist who is 100% self-confirmed as believing in racial superiority/inferiority? It doesn't surprise me that you follow him, but good god man, keep your racist ways to yourself.
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Mar 10 2021 03:27pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 10 2021 03:25pm)
FTFY


I think in german they have one common phrase for new coins, stolen teeth, and borrowed jewelry. herslaushenfietzer iirc.
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Mar 10 2021 03:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 10 Mar 2021 22:23)
or walk back to Switzerland, where his coward grand father ran to, bag of gold coins ready for deposit.


damn, you're really really butthurt, aren't you, lol? being SO incredibly mad and obsessed with some random stranger on the internet, following them around just to make those random ass rage posts, sucking up to whoever they have a conversation with. boring wife, boring life? pathetic little toady...

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 10 Mar 2021 22:26)
Several points:

1. "Americans" did not give natives smallpox infested blankets. Europeans did. Perhaps if you bothered to read history, you'd remember that "America" didn't exist prior to 1776.
2. European colonists died from smallpox as well. It was a common thing. They weren't intentionally passing blankets used by people who died of smallpox to the natives. Nope, sorry, when a person got smallpox during that era, their clothing and bedding was typically burned, and depending on the specific local, possibly their residence as well.
3. Genocide is a willful act. A race dying out due to a disease is not a genocide. The Native Americans did not genocide French Whores by spreading their syphilis to colonials who in turn passed it along to brothels throughout Europe.
4. Spanish Indian wars and French Indian wars and English Indian wars and Dutch Indian wars were common place. Like, seriously, tribes would ally with whichever side would help them decimate enemy tribes. Likewise after the US was founded, the American Army was enlisted to help in tribal disputes all the time, then blamed for the outcome.

Effectively, you're doing the same nonsensical bullshit you always do. Pointing the finger at everyone else about not being open enough to the "other" when you are a part of a society that literally killed millions of it's own citizens. Were there true American atrocities committed against some tribes? Sure! Were those tribes "American citizens"? In most cases, no. There were a few cases where they were. But American expansion west was fraught with war between tribes and settlers/the army. They were not our citizens. They were enemies to be conquered. Again, being German, you should know all about that. What were the death tolls due to German expansionism again? Forget the mere 7 million or so of your own citizens. 20 million plus, all said and done, wasn't it, for low end estimates? How about the German tribes continual sacking and burning of Rome? On the flipside, high end estimates regarding native American deaths due to actions of the US Government run between 1 and 5 million (closer to 1 million if you discount smallpox and other disease-related deaths). Native Americans who were "American" aka considered people of the US? Somewhere between 100K-500K. Those are the numbers of this "mass murder" that was mostly "War".

The only way "genocide" holds up at all is through your filthy "blanket" theory. And why the fuck would you post a Stephan M. video? You want to point the finger at other people for being "bigots" and try to use as a source a true ethnonationalist who is 100% self-confirmed as believing in racial superiority/inferiority? It doesn't surprise me that you follow him, but good god man, keep your racist ways to yourself.


watch the video, or just learn to read properly. it's not a stephan molyneux video, you idiot. it's a response to and refutation of the same insane whitewashing of a genocide that you made, lol.
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Mar 10 2021 03:44pm
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watch the video, or just learn to read properly. it's not a stephan molyneux video, you idiot. it's a response to and refutation of the same insane whitewashing of a genocide that you made, lol.


If you can't describe for yourself your claims, it's not worth watching. Even if it's a rebuttal of Stephan M it's likely just one ethnonationalist being refuted by another. There's no whitewash, our little Nazi friend. Actions of the British, Spanish, Dutch, and French are blamed on America, which didn't exist, and the actions of America, once it did exist, are being inflated, while simultaneously whitewashing the complicity of warring tribes in utilizing settlers to help them decimate their enemies. I get that you don't like any form of history that helps distract from the evils of your own nation. But America acknowledged the evils it did to the tribes ages ago. There's a reason they own tax free land where they make their own laws and operate their own tax free businesses.

By your own reasoning and your own standards, Germany should be paying Israel reparations to the tunes of Billions per year every year until the end of time for what you did. Yet you aren't really into that, are you? :)
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 10 Mar 2021 22:44)
If you can't describe for yourself your claims, it's not worth watching. Even if it's a rebuttal of Stephan M it's likely just one ethnonationalist being refuted by another. There's no whitewash, our little Nazi friend. Actions of the British, Spanish, Dutch, and French are blamed on America, which didn't exist, and the actions of America, once it did exist, are being inflated, while simultaneously whitewashing the complicity of warring tribes in utilizing settlers to help them decimate their enemies. I get that you don't like any form of history that helps distract from the evils of your own nation. But America acknowledged the evils it did to the tribes ages ago. There's a reason they own tax free land where they make their own laws and operate their own tax free businesses.

By your own reasoning and your own standards, Germany should be paying Israel reparations to the tunes of Billions per year every year until the end of time for what you did. Yet you aren't really into that, are you? :)


i love how you're too much of a coward to watch it, because it might rock your bigoted little world in which it was just "giving freezing people blankets in the winter", and instead resort to wild and idiotic speculations as to what it might be, when one click could easily tell you if you had any genuine curiosity or open-mindedness.
every one of your posts just oozes ignorance and stupidity. keep lying to yourself about america's history, but don't expect more educated people than you not to point out how wrong you are, lol.
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Mar 10 2021 04:01pm
Quote (fender @ 10 Mar 2021 13:51)
i love how you're too much of a coward to watch it, because it might rock your bigoted little world in which it was just "giving freezing people blankets in the winter", and instead resort to wild and idiotic speculations as to what it might be, when one click could easily tell you if you had any genuine curiosity or open-mindedness.
every one of your posts just oozes ignorance and stupidity. keep lying to yourself about america's history, but don't expect more educated people than you not to point out how wrong you are, lol.


I choose not to watch idiotic videos you post because I don't have any interest or desire to have my recommendation list cluttered with Nazi propaganda. You're on a text based forum. If the extent of your intellect is posting youtube videos, this thread is for you: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74613298&f=119

So, when is Germany going to start paying out billions per year to Israel for the evils they did to the Jews? Serious question. America not only acknowledged the evils done to tribes since it's creation, but provided land in perpetuity that is tax free, and the ability to run businesses and even companies tax free, in perpetuity to those tribes. Currently, it's estimated that the loss of taxes those reparations cost the US is in excess of $10 billion annually at the federal level alone. If you figure in state level and property tax loss, the number jumps up to an excess of close to $20 Billion/year. That number will only grow over time, it will never go down. And the words "In Perpetuity" means "Forever, or as long as the United States is a nation" since I realize such concepts are beyond you. So, where's your reciprocation towards those your master race, at the behest of your oh-so-admired Führer genocided? When do the "In perpetuity" payments to Israel start?
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 10 Mar 2021 23:01)
I choose not to watch idiotic videos you post because I don't have any interest or desire to have my recommendation list cluttered with Nazi propaganda. You're on a text based forum. If the extent of your intellect is posting youtube videos, this thread is for you: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74613298&f=119

So, when is Germany going to start paying out billions per year to Israel for the evils they did to the Jews? Serious question. America not only acknowledged the evils done to tribes since it's creation, but provided land in perpetuity that is tax free, and the ability to run businesses and even companies tax free, in perpetuity to those tribes. Currently, it's estimated that the loss of taxes those reparations cost the US is in excess of $10 billion annually at the federal level alone. If you figure in state level and property tax loss, the number jumps up to an excess of close to $20 Billion/year. That number will only grow over time, it will never go down. And the words "In Perpetuity" means "Forever, or as long as the United States is a nation" since I realize such concepts are beyond you. So, where's your reciprocation towards those your master race, at the behest of your oh-so-admired Führer genocided? When do the "In perpetuity" payments to Israel start?


keep projecting. you're the propagandist, you're the one who tried to whitewash their country's history by describing the native american genocide as "giving freezing people blankets". your posts speak for themselves. unlike you, i fully acknowledge the atrocities committed in my country.
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