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Jul 14 2024 08:15pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 14 2024 09:02pm)
Civil war? I doubt it. The end of our democracy and breakdown of civil society into irreconcilable differences that might have resulted in balkanization? Quite possibly.
I think its just more likely any chaos would be settled in a way that isn't (organized) warfare, because America simply lacks any concept of state/local identity anymore, we can't have blocs like the north and south.

Had Trump been killed, there's no way the results of the 2024 election would be seen as legitimate, and then we have to ask what follows


I actually believe we would have seen fury and hellfire far worse than a bunch of degenerates burning down a bunch of buildings and cars over a fentanyl junkie and retarded cop during the season of the mask.

Civil war, end of democracy, whatever you want to call it, we would without a doubt witness pandemonium.
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Jul 14 2024 08:21pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 14 2024 04:19pm)
Yes the bullet is longer as is the cartridge.

I did NOT say they sounded alike (at all). What I said was... the gunshots in the video sounded like a .22

Everything else... you just read into it. ^^



"Reading IS Fundamental". :D


...except that none of the shots sounded like the little piff piff a .22 makes.

All of the shots were made by more powerful cartridges.
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Jul 14 2024 08:24pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Jul 2024 22:02)
Civil war? I doubt it. The end of our democracy and breakdown of civil society into irreconcilable differences that might have resulted in balkanization? Quite possibly.
I think its just more likely any chaos would be settled in a way that isn't (organized) warfare, because America simply lacks any concept of state/local identity anymore, we can't have blocs like the north and south.

Had Trump been killed, there's no way the results of the 2024 election would be seen as legitimate, and then we have to ask what follows


It would have made the 2020 summer of peaceful protests look like a picnic that’s for sure. It wouldn’t be all out war but people would draw hard lines in the sand.

Agree with the election part.
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Jul 14 2024 08:25pm
Quote (Santara @ Jul 14 2024 10:21pm)
...except that none of the shots sounded like the little piff piff a .22 makes.

All of the shots were made by more powerful cartridges.



Sounded like a .22 to me.


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Jul 14 2024 08:27pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 14 2024 08:00pm)
Then democrats should float seceding their liberal states if they aren't happy with the principles this union was founded upon. The less populous colonies only agreed to a bicameral legislature and presidency on the compromise they would be elected in a way that both represents a population and the states equally. No minority state would ever willing subject itself to the will of a foreign majority oppressing it.


Honestly I agree. We shouldn't separate the union in a civil war, and we should allow people to immigrate back and forth before borders are established and create a fund to resettle people who aren't economically able otherwise. A North American Union can be formed with Canada and Mexico while conservatives preside over a crippled 3rd world United States that will probably petition to join the NAU within a few decades anyway, but not on their terms.

Quote (Santara @ Jul 14 2024 09:21pm)
...except that none of the shots sounded like the little piff piff a .22 makes.

All of the shots were made by more powerful cartridges.


a 556 would have taken that ear off tho

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Jul 14 2024 08:34pm
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edit: accidental double post sorry mods!

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Jul 14 2024 08:35pm
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a 556 would have taken that ear off tho




This. Even a graze would have taken the ear (or a seriously large chunk), off.

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Jul 14 2024 08:41pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 14 2024 09:25pm)
Sounded like a .22 to me.


Get your hearing checked then.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 14 2024 09:27pm)
a 556 would have taken that ear off tho


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/14/donald-trump-rally-shooter-gun/74402764007/

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Gunman used AR-style rifle purchased by father
Crooks used a legally-purchased "AR-style 556 rifle," according to Rojek, referring to a rifle that uses ammunition with a 5.56 mm diameter. Rojek said the weapon was located next to Crooks on the scene.


If he had hit the ear instead of winging it, yeah.

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 14 2024 09:38pm)
This. Even a graze would have taken the ear (or a seriously large chunk), off.


BWAHAHAHAHA

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Quote (Santara @ Jul 14 2024 10:41pm)
BWAHAHAHAHA





Ok.... Athrogate. :D

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Quote (Ghot @ Jul 14 2024 09:45pm)
Ok.... Athrogate. :D


Of course you'd dodge the news source telling you that the shooter's AR was a 5.56...
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