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Jul 18 2016 11:20am
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 18 Jul 2016 12:16)
What if one candidate refuses to release documents that every candidate has released for four decades and another refuses to release documents with zero precedent whatsoever?


I'm not saying they are the exact same thing. It is my opinion that tax returns are more important to release than the Wall Street transcripts, too.

I'm simply pointing out that Hillary Clinton hasn't necessarily been transparent about her background, either.

The Clinton Foundation could be under investigation, and Hillary Clinton has not been forthcoming about her involvement in her private server use while Secretary of State. In fact, she was repeatedly dishonest with the American public and by all accounts lied to us about what she did and didn't do, according to the FBI's investigation.

My point is that the lack of transparency of both candidates is a great cause of concern. We should demand both candidates to be forthcoming about their financial and political histories and not accept secrecy.
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Jul 18 2016 11:55am
The transcript thing is the one thing that really screams sexism imo

Her credibility and transparency are fair game I don't think any of you fucks have any right to see those transcripts if she doesn't want to show em. They shouldnt even be in the same post as tax returns.


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Jul 18 2016 12:35pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 18 2016 12:16pm)
What if one candidate refuses to release documents that every candidate has released for four decades and another refuses to release documents with zero precedent whatsoever?



Zero precedent because no other presidential nominee has received $675,000 for 3 speeches at Goldman Sach ( $1.8 million in total for big bank speeches )
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Jul 18 2016 12:38pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ 18 Jul 2016 10:35)
Zero precedent because no other presidential nominee has received $675,000 for 3 speeches at Goldman Sach ( $1.8 million in total for big bank speeches )


It's not her fault that she received half of Donald Trump's actual net worth for a few speeches man. :(
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Jul 18 2016 12:41pm
Here's the fact.

No one who is already supporting Clinton cares if any of her scandals/corruption is true.

The same is said about Trump supporters...

Anyone who is undecided knows that clinton is 'shady'
The same can be said about Trump.

Nothing really new here..

Even after bill clinton lies under oath, his supporters did not care. Even one bit.


To me (a layman) it seems that whoever wons Florida and ohio will win.
Also, trump dominated PA and MI, during the primaries, against a very liberal kasich..
I don't think it's impossible if he wins these states

This post was edited by herbdoc on Jul 18 2016 12:44pm
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Jul 18 2016 01:16pm
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Here's the fact.

No one who is already supporting Clinton cares if any of her scandals/corruption is true.


The same is said about Trump supporters...

Anyone who is undecided knows that clinton is 'shady'
The same can be said about Trump.

Nothing really new here..

Even after bill clinton lies under oath, his supporters did not care. Even one bit.


To me (a layman) it seems that whoever wons Florida and ohio will win.
Also, trump dominated PA and MI, during the primaries, against a very liberal kasich..
I don't think it's impossible if he wins these states


hmm

This post was edited by dro94 on Jul 18 2016 01:16pm
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Jul 18 2016 01:35pm
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Jul 18 2016 01:35pm
Quote (herbdoc @ Jul 18 2016 10:41am)
Here's the fact.

No one who is already supporting Clinton cares if any of her scandals/corruption is true.

The same is said about Trump supporters...

Anyone who is undecided knows that clinton is 'shady'
The same can be said about Trump.

Nothing really new here..

Even after bill clinton lies under oath, his supporters did not care. Even one bit.


To me (a layman) it seems that whoever wons Florida and ohio will win.
Also, trump dominated PA and MI, during the primaries, against a very liberal kasich..
I don't think it's impossible if he wins these states


Lol fact

not much that comes from you is fact and this is no exception
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Jul 18 2016 01:44pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 18 2016 01:38pm)
It's not her fault that she received half of Donald Trump's actual net worth for a few speeches man. :(


Based on Trump's net income he's probably worth $4-5 billion. Not anywhere near $10-12, but come on, he's not poor.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Jul 18 2016 01:44pm
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Jul 18 2016 01:45pm
Quote (herbdoc @ Jul 18 2016 01:41pm)
Here's the fact.

No one who is already supporting Clinton cares if any of her scandals/corruption is true.

The same is said about Trump supporters...

Anyone who is undecided knows that clinton is 'shady'
The same can be said about Trump.

Nothing really new here..

Even after bill clinton lies under oath, his supporters did not care. Even one bit.


To me (a layman) it seems that whoever wons Florida and ohio will win.
Also, trump dominated PA and MI, during the primaries, against a very liberal kasich..
I don't think it's impossible if he wins these states


Kasich only won governor in Ohio because he's not like the rest of his insane republican comrades where they think you have to treat all drug addicts as criminals and waste your entire political career trying to challenge the supreme's court rulings on abortion and DOMA and the ACA.

Maybe trump will win but I highly doubt the state I live in will vote for someone with the views Trump has stated on immigration. Ohio doesn't care much about immigration.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Jul 18 2016 01:46pm
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