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Apr 4 2021 11:31am
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Here where I live, snow around Easter is perfectly common and happened every other year (depending on if Easter is early or late in the calendar).


What is unusual is the exceptional temperatures of the last few weeks which have caused massive budding of the plants, which means that the frost will have a devastating effect.
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The UK is going to give the option of another vaccine for those under the age of 30. Looks like young dro won't be getting the AstraZeneca vaccine after all, but you old '04 and 05'ers should still get it when offered
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Here where I live, snow around Easter is perfectly common and happened every other year (depending on if Easter is early or late in the calendar).


perfectly normal stuff, my birthday is in a few days and it has always been between winter storm and barbecue weather

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to be fair, the beginning of spring has always been a time of quickly changing weathers, but generally speaking, what we saw in the last couple of years is exactly what climate scientists predicted: a significant increase of extreme weather events and temperature records.
last wednesday for example was the warmest march day since the beginning of weather records in 1881 here.


you can find some stat for anything, it doesnt prove shit

in february we got a headline "first winter in hamburg without two ground frost days in a row ----> climate crisis"

a few days later we had -10 degrees and below for like two weeks

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 8 Apr 2021 02:11)
perfectly normal stuff, my birthday is in a few days and it has always been between winter storm and barbecue weather



you can find some stat for anything, it doesnt prove shit

in february we got a headline "first winter in hamburg without two ground frost days in a row ----> climate crisis"

a few days later we had -10 degrees and below for like two weeks

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you'd have to show me the article, but i strongly suspect that it was about the timeframe from the start of winter until the date the article was written, and i'd wager it was factually correct. of course there won't be special headlines about usual and expected temperatures, as that is, by definition, not news. noticeably too cold or too hot, however, is worth mentioning. how is that difficult for you to understand?

your mistake is that you're not looking at the bigger picture. it is a well documented fact that extreme weather events and climates are rapidly increasing. six or seven of the 10 hottest summers in germany, austria, and switzerland were all in the 21st century, all within 15 years or so. acting like you reading an article about an unusually warm winter, followed by two weeks of cold, somehow disproves that trend, is absurd.

are you seriously a climate change denier, or what's the point of your post? i mean, didn't you at some point pretend that you were studying physics or something along those lines? you might have a new account, but you're still mostly poo - i had hoped the time away from jsp would do you some good, maybe help you become a critical thinker, a fact based person, but alas...

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you'd have to show me the article, but i strongly suspect that it was about the timeframe from the start of winter until the date the article was written, and i'd wager it was factually correct. of course there won't be special headlines about usual and expected temperatures, as that is, by definition, not news. noticeably too cold or too hot, however, is worth mentioning. how is that difficult for you to understand?

your mistake is that you're not looking at the bigger picture. it is a well documented fact that extreme weather events and climates are rapidly increasing. six or seven of the 10 hottest summers in germany, austria, and switzerland were all in the 21st century, all within 15 years or so. acting like you reading an article about an unusually warm winter, followed by two weeks of cold, somehow disproves that trend, is absurd.

are you seriously a climate change denier, or what's the point of your post? i mean, didn't you at some point pretend that you were studying physics or something along those lines? you might have a new account, but you're still mostly poo - i had hoped the time away from jsp would do you some good, maybe help you become a critical thinker, a fact based person, but alas...


oh i am sure that article was correct, but the context is just stupid when winter isnt over

the point of that post was, that climate science is literally the field with the most conjecture out there

their predictions were wrong more often than i can count and politicians abuse the worst case scenario to fearmonger

morons like john kerry are in charge of the united states efforts now, the same guy said the arctic would be ice free in 2019

climate change has gone away from science to a cult, just look at extinction rebellion

a world wide known climate scientist from my university got cancelled when he gave humanity a CO2 budget that is twice as high

he was supposed to write an article for the ipcc report

its kinda funny that you attack people for what they do, what are you doing sweetheart? you never say what your fucking job is

i have an undergraduate in physics, now almost done with my chemistry master, just waiting for places to open up again

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oh i am sure that article was correct, but the context is just stupid when winter isnt over

the point of that post was, that climate science is literally the field with the most conjecture out there

their predictions were wrong more often than i can count and politicians abuse the worst case scenario to fearmonger

morons like john kerry are in charge of the united states efforts now, the same guy said the arctic would be ice free in 2019

climate change has gone away from science to a cult, just look at extinction rebellion

a world wide known climate scientist from my university got cancelled when he gave humanity a CO2 budget that is twice as high

he was supposed to write an article for the ipcc report

its kinda funny that you attack people for what they do, what are you doing sweetheart? you never say what your fucking job is

i have an undergraduate in physics, now almost done with my chemistry master, just waiting for places to open up again


that's just your usual, vague, climate-change 'sceptic' / appeaser talk, trying to not sound like a complete science-denier, but still wanting nothing to fundamentally change (which is only a reasonable and logically coherent position if you actually DO reject the overwhelming scientific consensus regarding climate change).

here's a simple question: do you acknowledge the increasing frequency of extreme weather events (droughts, floodings, temperatures, hurricanes...) around the globe, and do you realise those are a direct result of man-made climate change, do you realise that we don't have ANY time to wait and see IF we're even responsible, but that everything we do RIGHT NOW will only limit the scope of the negative impact, or do you just dismiss that as alarmism / "cult"?

also, we've been over this a dozen times already, but the fact that it's basically impossible to make pinpoint predictions for something as complex as climate, does not mean the underlying findings and conclusions, the general predictions and trends are somehow all baseless conjecture. that's the exact same "logic" fail and lack of understanding of scientific methods and terminology as creationists pointing out that evolution is 'only a theory', lol.
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that's just your usual, vague, climate-change 'sceptic' / appeaser talk, trying to not sound like a complete science-denier, but still wanting nothing to fundamentally change (which is only a reasonable and logically coherent position if you actually DO reject the overwhelming scientific consensus regarding climate change).

here's a simple question: do you acknowledge the increasing frequency of extreme weather events (droughts, floodings, temperatures, hurricanes...) around the globe, and do you realise those are a direct result of man-made climate change, do you realise that we don't have ANY time to wait and see IF we're even responsible, but that everything we do RIGHT NOW will only limit the scope of the negative impact, or do you just dismiss that as alarmism / "cult"?

also, we've been over this a dozen times already, but the fact that it's basically impossible to make pinpoint predictions for something as complex as climate, does not mean the underlying findings and conclusions, the general predictions and trends are somehow all baseless conjecture. that's the exact same "logic" fail and lack of understanding of scientific methods and terminology as creationists pointing out that evolution is 'only a theory', lol.


simple question, simple answer

there is no increasing frequency of extreme weather events just like the popular "earth is burning" propaganda for every fire in california or australia is complete fearmongering

the real issue is terrible land management and increasing population

you cant build in classic fire and flood areas and whine about climate change

i dont dismiss environmental protection whatsoever and cutting emissions is a part of that

when i look at a coal power plant i am not concerned with CO2, but with actually bad things coming out of there

however, all this talk about having to cut all emissions at a certain date with no clue if thats even possible to prevent a completely theoretical scenario......thats just stupid

and predicting an apocalypse to force a certain political agenda on people is not only stupid, its evil

fossil fuels for generating energy will automatically be phased out eventually in favor of more efficient technology, thats how it has always been

self proclaimed climate activists want us to move back, but there is only one way and that is forward

these people want to abolish this and that, while whining about capitalism on their iphone

how about focusing on real problems right now, overpopulation, chemical pollution (plastic), destruction of forests and oceans
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Apr 8 2021 03:29pm
The amount of European saying yes to a covid vaccine is probably increasing in the same way:
For France: "70% of those questioned are in favor of vaccination. This is almost 30 points more than four months ago.
In December 2020, 42% of French people approved the vaccination, they were 56% in January and 61% in February."
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simple question, simple answer

there is no increasing frequency of extreme weather events just like the popular "earth is burning" propaganda for every fire in california or australia is complete fearmongering

the real issue is terrible land management and increasing population

you cant build in classic fire and flood areas and whine about climate change

i dont dismiss environmental protection whatsoever and cutting emissions is a part of that

when i look at a coal power plant i am not concerned with CO2, but with actually bad things coming out of there

however, all this talk about having to cut all emissions at a certain date with no clue if thats even possible to prevent a completely theoretical scenario......thats just stupid

and predicting an apocalypse to force a certain political agenda on people is not only stupid, its evil

fossil fuels for generating energy will automatically be phased out eventually in favor of more efficient technology, thats how it has always been

self proclaimed climate activists want us to move back, but there is only one way and that is forward

these people want to abolish this and that, while whining about capitalism on their iphone

how about focusing on real problems right now, overpopulation, chemical pollution (plastic), destruction of forests and oceans


ok, so it's full-on science and reality denial with you then. good to know...

when the next record hurricane season hits, you can blame it on "terrible land management"... and when people notice we have one record summer after another by simply comparing undisputed data, you can accuse them of "fearmongering", and that those temperatures simply don't exist, lol.

remind me again, what are all those climate scientists trying to sell us again? who is paying them to lie to us again? i mean, with fossil fuel, which admitted to deliberately misleading the public about climate change, it is obvious, i'm just wondering who and what you people think is behind the grand climate change conspiracy...
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ok, so it's full-on science and reality denial with you then. good to know...

when the next record hurricane season hits, you can blame it on "terrible land management"... and when people notice we have one record summer after another by simply comparing undisputed data, you can accuse them of "fearmongering", and that those temperatures simply don't exist, lol.

remind me again, what are all those climate scientists trying to sell us again? who is paying them to lie to us again? i mean, with fossil fuel, which admitted to deliberately misleading the public about climate change, it is obvious, i'm just wondering who and what you people think is behind the grand climate change conspiracy...


there is no comparison for a lot of things since that data couldnt be gathered back then, unfortunately i cant find the NASA article about missing proof for more extreme weather anymore

comparing 2021 to 1921 for example is not possible

thats like comparing the first computer with a smartphone, but thats above your intelligence as a liberal arts/history major

its not even a conspiracy, if you do your research

the same companies and billionaires causing climate change like you think they do, also sell you the "solution"

michael moore did a great job on that with his planet of the humans documentary

the people helpless leftists like you hate the most are playing you like a fiddle

another example is the greta thunberg story

if you watch the documentary of her, you will realise that this is a professionally orchestrated hype from the start by investors and funds to make money

"give us your money and you will save the planet"

just like the catholic church stole money from people in the middle ages
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