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Dec 8 2020 04:58pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 8 2020 04:56pm)
What everybody who knows even the basics expected.


This is also true. :)
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Dec 8 2020 05:00pm
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So much winning :rofl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daOH-pTd_nk&t=28

When will the EC meet, so that this tedious and silly circus can finally end?
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Dec 8 2020 05:04pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 8 Dec 2020 23:57)
It doesn't contradict that at all lol

It's a statement of incontrovertible fact.

Obama can not have much control, and Trump can still just be a continuation of Obama's economy. Actually, presidents having little control virtually guarantees that they are riding the previous president's economy for at least 2 years.


The emphasis was clearly on "Obama's economy", as in "the economy that Obama created and deserves credit for, not Trump". If presidents have little to no control, talking about Obama's (or Trump's or Bush's) economy is unfounded.
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Dec 8 2020 05:49pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 8 2020 05:04pm)
The emphasis was clearly on "Obama's economy", as in "the economy that Obama created and deserves credit for, not Trump". If presidents have little to no control, talking about Obama's (or Trump's or Bush's) economy is unfounded.


Or it just means "the economy under Obama". The point of the argument was that Trump didn't do anything meaningful to change the economy and the trends that were in place under his presidency were a continuation of the same trends under Obama. How much control a president has is pretty much irrelevant, and the statement that Trump continued trends already present is incontrovertible.
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Dec 8 2020 06:11pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 8 2020 04:56pm)
What everybody who knows even the basics expected.


I assume the Texas case will be the one heard if any. It encompasses all of the more solid challenges in one.
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Dec 8 2020 06:26pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 8 2020 06:04pm)
The emphasis was clearly on "Obama's economy", as in "the economy that Obama created and deserves credit for, not Trump". If presidents have little to no control, talking about Obama's (or Trump's or Bush's) economy is unfounded.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 8 2020 06:49pm)
Or it just means "the economy under Obama". The point of the argument was that Trump didn't do anything meaningful to change the economy and the trends that were in place under his presidency were a continuation of the same trends under Obama. How much control a president has is pretty much irrelevant, and the statement that Trump continued trends already present is incontrovertible.


Maybe we could strike a middle ground where the president's actions(and the Fed's) do influence the economy, but trends are relevant too and the deficit matters as well.

I'm a novice on economics but this is the position I'll hold until proven otherwise.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 8 2020 06:28pm
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 9 2020 12:49pm)
Or it just means "the economy under Obama". The point of the argument was that Trump didn't do anything meaningful to change the economy and the trends that were in place under his presidency were a continuation of the same trends under Obama. How much control a president has is pretty much irrelevant, and the statement that Trump continued trends already present is incontrovertible.


yet people love a scapegoat. So when i see people harping on about biden or trump or even dems vs gop i kinda roll my eyes cause alot of the time they just discussing hot air. The real discussion is about the fed and the banking cartels that run the world
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yet people love a scapegoat. So when i see people harping on about biden or trump or even dems vs gop i kinda roll my eyes cause alot of the time they just discussing hot air. The real discussion is about the fed and the banking cartels that run the world


Yes yes you're very smart to be the one person who discovered a massive conspiracy theory that we should all be paying attention to. So smart. /s
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Yes yes you're very smart to be the one person who discovered a massive conspiracy theory that we should all be paying attention to. So smart. /s


what theory? connecting dots i didn't make sounds like you are a gullible person a perfect talk around about nothing productive or useful. A typical pardian.
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Dec 10 2020 04:03pm
https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1337135543373733889

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JUST IN: New amicus brief from 106 Republican House members in support of Texas' bid to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the Supreme Court. Here they are


I don't think people who weren't already fervently anti-Trump understand the magnitude of what has happened since he lost. We're seeing most members and voters of one of the two major parties completely abandoning democracy because they lost the presidency. It's complete madness.

When Biden gets into office, how are the rest of us supposed to just forget this happened? Why would a Biden voter give a fuck about him violating norms or being corrupt when Republicans were mostly united to overturn his win?

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 10 2020 04:05pm
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