Ok chicken little.

Getting all caps lock on words lol.

And yes i support policies that prevent hospital dumping you dumb ass. I guess you think they would be better off sick and homeless; how noble. I fail to see how that is better.

It will bounce back because demand will be there. Going forward small businesses need to focus on resiliency because doing it yourself isn't easy.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 26 2020 08:43am

Banks don't "forgive" loans.



Contact tracing wouldn't work without the ability to test. Contact tracing wouldn't have worked regardless. The earliest death in the US was thought to be in Washington State, but it turns out that it was in California over a week earlier.

90K deaths is not only unproven, it's unlikely. More and more cases of people dying from other things and being marked COVID are coming out. People in Hospice for unrelated issues prior to COVID ever being "a thing" that you lefty shits considered (It's just a distraction from the impeachment!) being marked down as dying from it.

I said it before, I'll say it again, I'll keep saying it, and come January, when numbers are out, you're going to be proven wrong, yet again: The end total deaths in the US 2020 (not including suicide) will be in line with prior years. Covid will have little real impact. Because even the majority of those it HAS legitimately killed, would likely have died this year regardless. It's a strong cold where comorbidity is concerned. But not even a weak flu whether the healthy are concerned.

No matter how many times I've repeated, "The elderly and co-morbidity risks should have been incentivised to self-isolate" you claim I just want the elderly to die. You high? Democrat governors like Cuomo with the "Covid-positive elderly MUST go back to nursing homes while still infected" WANTED the elderly to die. And you were another who supported their decision. Chump.

The virus has been in the US since Mid-January. By early February it was in all states, and by mid-February it was in nearly all counties. Lockdowns were far far FAR too late to make a difference. It spread like every other coronavirus (read: COMMON COLD) spreads. It has the incubation of every other coronavirus (read: COMMON COLD) and was therefore nearly impossible to prevent the spread of. If it were even 1/100th as bad as you're claiming, Ferguson's model would have been correct, and there would ALREADY be 2.2 million American dead.

But hey, mid-January was a thing, remember? Don't worry. Covid's not a problem, Trump's only trying to shut down travel from China because he's a racist, and trying to distract from impeachment.



So... 1 patient from a nursing home that has a population of 5000 ends up in the hospital. They test positive. They're sent back to the nursing home, that had shown no other cases. Within a week, 80% of the nursing home is dead.

And you're claiming sparing one bed, or simply buying the patient a hotel room wouldn't have been better policy?

You really are special.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 26 2020 08:54am

The government loans from the stimulus package are what I was referencing.

all that ranting..
and S. Korea and New Zealand were able to do exactly what i said. Sorry
new wall of text plox. sorry again even if you just take confirmed cases vs deaths its STILL not the common cold. Try more letters per post.. might make you right.

They aren't government loans. The program was set up by the government, but the loans are given out by banks, and there will be no forgiveness.

I will admit, the Administration did a bangup job on negotiating the terms the banks would have to go for, but no, they're still loans by banks, and those loans will have to be repaid.

So you're effectively just saying that small businesses will be saddled with massive debts that they don't operate at a high enough profit margin to pay off, to cover payroll where the employee didn't work, due to states shutting down that business then refusing to provide the employees unemployment during the enforced workless period.

But the economy will recover. Yep, good show.



S. Korea's a terrible example. The moment they lifted restrictions, cases (including lethal) immediately started popping up. Because just locking people down doesn't mean they won't have it and be able to pass it.

And yeah, confirmed cases of the common cold per year run in the Billions. Not the handful of millions. And again, states that have ramped up testing (such as Texas) are seeing a huge influx of "new" cases. Cases are cropping up all over the place. Deaths going down.

Keep clinging to a lie. Meanwhile, I excluded deaths by suicide earlier, because suicides are going up as a direct result of the lockdown. Apparently lack of human contact and like, uh... Sunlight and exercise have pretty negative effects.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 26 2020 09:04am

The corona has been hella profitable for me in real life i really cannot complain to be honest lol im putting in a new extension for my house life is great!!!

this corona was a blessing in disguise for me!

it copied that wall from Fender's post history.

You are incorrect.

Banks are servicing the loans, but the government is the one who is actually making them. Basically the government is providing the money and paying fees to banks to organize the paperwork. The banks are not the ones providing the money for the loans, and are not the ones writing the terms for the loans.

If the loan is used for the following it can be forgiven

Provide sick leave to employees unable to work due to the effects of COVID-19;
Maintain payroll to retain employees;
Cover increased costs of materials due to interrupted supply chains;
Make rent or mortgage payments; or
Repay other obligations that cannot be met due to revenue losses

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 26 2020 10:05am

It appears you are probably correct? Still unlikely to be any form of "forgiveness" at any point, because the federal government can't simply assume the debt incurred by extreme term state level closures. And the banks servicing the loans for corporate customers who don't qualify...

Yeah, this is not good, and explains further why (predominately blue) states will refuse to grant unemployment. While the federal unemployment funds of $600/week/person may not cost the state anything (at least not this second), their own state unemployment payout will. If employees are technically "employed" even if they have 0 hours due to state-mandated lockdown, and the state therefore refuses the claims of those employees, then the business owner has to lay off their workforce, or take a crippling loan. Laid off workforce may never come back, and the employer may be fined by the state for hostile action during a crisis. The loan costs the state nothing, benefits the federal government nothing, and just drives up debt all around. BUT! If a dem is elected, then the dem can "forgive" the debt, and dems come out as heroes of a problem they created, all while pointing the increase to the national debt as the fault of republicans.

Sounds pretty legit, tbh.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 26 2020 10:19am

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/499483-michigan-governors-husband-criticized-over-alleged-boating-request-amid

rules for thee not for me Governor Whitmer (D-MI)