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Jul 15 2016 11:12am
Quote (excellence @ 15 Jul 2016 11:54)
Youve been at the donald a few times lately


I do. I think it's important to understand where people are coming from. Plus, the memes are dank.

Quote (IceMage @ 15 Jul 2016 12:01)
Who cares? Trump can't keep consistent positions himself, why would we expect his VP to?


I mean, you're right. This is politics. Pence will change some of his stances, and Trump has flip-flopped a lot just in the past year.

It's just funny. This is not the same man who started running a year ago. He's a full-blown politician. I can almost guarantee you he didn't want Pence himself, I think his political advisers recommended the pick. I think he wanted Gingrich or Christie more. This is a political choice.

He vehemently called out using teleprompters and talked about how he was more straight-forward and genuine, now he uses them. He vehemently criticized Super PACs and told Americans he's his own man, now he uses them.

Trump always talks about how politicians are so corrupt and incompetent. It's just funny, because in this past year, he has become more and more like the political class that he so harshly criticizes. He has completely sold out to his supporters.
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Jul 15 2016 11:17am
• The sun rose this morning... Trump is Done!!!
• Trump Picked Mike Pence For VP... Trump is Done!!!
• Bill Kristol Started a New Party... Goodbye Trump!
• Trump Went to Scotland... Trump Is Finished!
• Trump Sez Judge Curiel is La Raza... Trump is Done!!!
• Trump says he thinks the British should vote to leave but it’s up to them…He’s done for!!!
• Cruz steals Trump delegates... Trump is Done!!!
• Mark Levin Won't Vote For Trump... Trump Is Finished!
• Ted Cruz got Colorado Delegates... Trump is in Panic!
• Trump Called Sen. Warren "Pocahontas!" Trump is Done!!!
• Romney will vote for Ted Cruz! Donald Is Finished!
• Lindsey Graham endorsed Ted Cruz! Trump Is Finished!
• Trump used Eminent Domain... He's finished!
• Jeb Said Trump is an Attack Dog. Trump is Done!!!
• Sarah Palin Endorsed Trump!!! The Donald Is Finished!
• Glen Beck buried his face in cheetos and said Donald Trump is done... That does it!
• He's never held public office. He can't win.
• He won't connect with the voters. He's finished!
• Cruz says Trump is a New Yorker, Good bye Donald!
• Rally attendance doesn't translate into votes. Trump is Done!
• He won't file his candidacy papers. He's finished!
• He has funny hair, we hate funny hair. He's finished!
• Trump's for Amnesty. He's finished!
• Trump's against Amnesty. He's finished!
• He's Offended All Women. He's finished!
• He'll never poll well. He's finished!
• He'll Never Lead In The Polls. He's finished!
• He'll Never File His Financials. He's finished!
• Trump Offended Veterans. He's finished!
• Trump melted down in Iowa Speech. He's Done!
• Trump joked about Carly's face! OMG OMG OMG. He's finished!
• Trump can't beat Hillary, it's already been decided.
• He said bimbo! He said bimbo! He said bimbo! He's Done!
• He's finished if he doesn't apologize to Megyn Kelly
• He falsely claimed he's Batman. He's finished!
• He insulted Mexicans again by beating up poor Jorge Ramos
• He's not a REAL conservative (in Spanish!), He's finished!
• Bankruptcy!!! OH NOOOO! (pretend it's not legal) He's finished
• He made fun of poor delicate flower Ben Carson. He's finished!
• Trump Lost the Debate. Everybody else is Surging! He's Toast.
• Trump Said Bomb the S*** Out of ISIS in public! OMG OMG. Finis
• Trump made John Harwood lie on national TV. He's finished!
• Carson is surging! Carson top of the polls! Trump is finished.
• Jeb rolls out "Jeb Can Fix It" Ruh Roh! He's serious. Trump is
• Hillary had a great day lying to Congress! She's a winner. Tru
• He doesn't really want to be President. He's finished!
• He said stuff about blood! OMG OMG! He's finished!
• He'll be exposed in the debates and fail miserably. He's finis
• Frank Luntz said Trump has collapsed. He's finished!
• Redstate claims he won't make it to Iowa. He's finished!
• Repeat the lie that he want's single payer healthcare. He's Fi
• Trump won't sign the Pledge. He's a jerk. He's finished!
• Trump DID sign the Pledge. He's a jerk.. He's finished!
• He thinks Candidates Should Speak English! OH THE HORROR!
• George Will says Trump Can't Sit Down to Tea & Talk to Voters.
• Trump won't apologize to Carly. He's finished!
• Trump won't apologize to Carson. He's finished!
• He can't win without the Evangelicals. He's finished!
• Bobby Jindal called him names. He's finished!
• Ben Carson questions Trump's faith. OMG! He's finished!
• The country wants a Minister not a CEO. He's Finished!
• Scott Walker Drops Out. This is bad for Trump. He's finished!,
• Greg Gutfield thinks Trump is a clown. He's Finished!
• His poll numbers are down. He's still in the lead. He's Finished

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Jul 15 2016 11:18am
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 15 2016 09:12am)
I do. I think it's important to understand where people are coming from. Plus, the memes are dank.



I mean, you're right. This is politics. Pence will change some of his stances, and Trump has flip-flopped a lot just in the past year.

It's just funny. This is not the same man who started running a year ago. He's a full-blown politician. I can almost guarantee you he didn't want Pence himself, I think his political advisers recommended the pick. I think he wanted Gingrich or Christie more. This is a political choice.

He vehemently called out using teleprompters and talked about how he was more straight-forward and genuine, now he uses them. He vehemently criticized Super PACs and told Americans he's his own man, now he uses them.

Trump always talks about how politicians are so corrupt and incompetent. It's just funny, because in this past year, he has become more and more like the political class that he so harshly criticizes. He has completely sold out to his supporters.


Same can be said about Sanders just in a more substantive way
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Jul 15 2016 11:25am
Quote (excellence @ 15 Jul 2016 12:17)
• The sun rose this morning... Trump is Done!!!
• Trump Picked Mike Pence For VP... Trump is Done!!!
• Bill Kristol Started a New Party... Goodbye Trump!
• Trump Went to Scotland... Trump Is Finished!
• Trump Sez Judge Curiel is La Raza... Trump is Done!!!
• Trump says he thinks the British should vote to leave but it’s up to them…He’s done for!!!
• Cruz steals Trump delegates... Trump is Done!!!
• Mark Levin Won't Vote For Trump... Trump Is Finished!
• Ted Cruz got Colorado Delegates... Trump is in Panic!
• Trump Called Sen. Warren "Pocahontas!" Trump is Done!!!
• Romney will vote for Ted Cruz! Donald Is Finished!
• Lindsey Graham endorsed Ted Cruz! Trump Is Finished!
• Trump used Eminent Domain... He's finished!
• Jeb Said Trump is an Attack Dog. Trump is Done!!!
• Sarah Palin Endorsed Trump!!! The Donald Is Finished!
• Glen Beck buried his face in cheetos and said Donald Trump is done... That does it!
• He's never held public office. He can't win.
• He won't connect with the voters. He's finished!
• Cruz says Trump is a New Yorker, Good bye Donald!
• Rally attendance doesn't translate into votes. Trump is Done!
• He won't file his candidacy papers. He's finished!
• He has funny hair, we hate funny hair. He's finished!
• Trump's for Amnesty. He's finished!
• Trump's against Amnesty. He's finished!
• He's Offended All Women. He's finished!
• He'll never poll well. He's finished!
• He'll Never Lead In The Polls. He's finished!
• He'll Never File His Financials. He's finished!
• Trump Offended Veterans. He's finished!
• Trump melted down in Iowa Speech. He's Done!
• Trump joked about Carly's face! OMG OMG OMG. He's finished!
• Trump can't beat Hillary, it's already been decided.
• He said bimbo! He said bimbo! He said bimbo! He's Done!
• He's finished if he doesn't apologize to Megyn Kelly
• He falsely claimed he's Batman. He's finished!
• He insulted Mexicans again by beating up poor Jorge Ramos
• He's not a REAL conservative (in Spanish!), He's finished!
• Bankruptcy!!! OH NOOOO! (pretend it's not legal) He's finished
• He made fun of poor delicate flower Ben Carson. He's finished!
• Trump Lost the Debate. Everybody else is Surging! He's Toast.
• Trump Said Bomb the S*** Out of ISIS in public! OMG OMG. Finis
• Trump made John Harwood lie on national TV. He's finished!
• Carson is surging! Carson top of the polls! Trump is finished.
• Jeb rolls out "Jeb Can Fix It" Ruh Roh! He's serious. Trump is
• Hillary had a great day lying to Congress! She's a winner. Tru
• He doesn't really want to be President. He's finished!
• He said stuff about blood! OMG OMG! He's finished!
• He'll be exposed in the debates and fail miserably. He's finis
• Frank Luntz said Trump has collapsed. He's finished!
• Redstate claims he won't make it to Iowa. He's finished!
• Repeat the lie that he want's single payer healthcare. He's Fi
• Trump won't sign the Pledge. He's a jerk. He's finished!
• Trump DID sign the Pledge. He's a jerk.. He's finished!
• He thinks Candidates Should Speak English! OH THE HORROR!
• George Will says Trump Can't Sit Down to Tea & Talk to Voters.
• Trump won't apologize to Carly. He's finished!
• Trump won't apologize to Carson. He's finished!
• He can't win without the Evangelicals. He's finished!
• Bobby Jindal called him names. He's finished!
• Ben Carson questions Trump's faith. OMG! He's finished!
• The country wants a Minister not a CEO. He's Finished!
• Scott Walker Drops Out. This is bad for Trump. He's finished!,
• Greg Gutfield thinks Trump is a clown. He's Finished!
• His poll numbers are down. He's still in the lead. He's Finished


I'm not saying Trump is done. Don't miscontrue what I'm saying.

I'm saying he is a politician. Don't let him fool you. He does whatever he needs to do to get elected, including flip-flopping on any stance necessary.

He isn't the same candidate that he was even just a couple months ago.

The tale of Donald Trump is a unique one. Books will be written about this run. It's been amazing and remarkable. The last couple chapters will talk about how the RNC got him by the balls and he went from intriguing outsider to standard politician.
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Jul 15 2016 11:48am
Quote (ThatAlex @ 15 Jul 2016 13:25)
I'm not saying Trump is done. Don't miscontrue what I'm saying.

I'm saying he is a politician. Don't let him fool you. He does whatever he needs to do to get elected, including flip-flopping on any stance necessary.

He isn't the same candidate that he was even just a couple months ago.

The tale of Donald Trump is a unique one. Books will be written about this run. It's been amazing and remarkable. The last couple chapters will talk about how the RNC got him by the balls and he went from intriguing outsider to standard politician.

post was a general one in nature. and there is already a book about his tale
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Jul 15 2016 04:41pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 12 2016 05:31pm)
He's laid out a surprisingly clear plan for student loans.

Much of his immigration has been smoke and mirrors so far.


No he hasn't. Not even a little bit.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/05/17/what-college-students-should-expect-from-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders

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“Donald Trump has said virtually nothing about his plans for higher education,” Stratford said. “However, he has previously said in broad terms that he wants to help people struggling with student loan debt.”


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/04/where-the-candidates-stand-on-student-loan-debt-commentary.html

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On the opposite end of the spectrum from Clinton and Sanders, Donald Trump hasn't spoken much or published any policy positions related to solving the student loan debt problem.

So far, Trump has only written and spoken out broadly against student-loan debt. For instance, in his 2015 book "Crippled America," Trump wrote, "These student loans are probably one of the only things that the government shouldn't make money from and yet it does."

However, general statements like this and a lack of any specific proposal to aid student loan borrowers leaves us to wonder: What would Trump do, if anything, related to student loan debt? With the lack of even a basic plan, as well as no voting record, it's impossible to endorse Trump's approach to student loan debt reform.


They readily admit that they haven't laid out a plan because the radio host wingnut (yes, that's who is in charge of coming up with policy on the Trump campaign) says he's trying to get Trump to sign off on "ideas" that will be presented "during the fall campaign" https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/05/13/trumps-campaign-co-chair-describes-higher-education-policies-being-developed

We've already heard one such idea, like I mentioned, but it's half an idea and it's terrible. I don't know if we'll ever hear the other ones fleshed out but based on what he's shared about them they sound just as terrible. I don't know why you asserted something when you clearly had no idea what you were talking about, that was stupid. It was doubly-stupid considering who you were talking to.
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Jul 15 2016 04:48pm
Quote (excellence @ 15 Jul 2016 12:48)
post was a general one in nature. and there is already a book about his tale
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512P3KPfMjL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


There's gong to be books specifically about his 2016 presidential run. It's a remarkable event in modern American politics.
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Jul 15 2016 05:24pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 15 2016 03:48pm)
There's gong to be books specifically about his 2016 presidential run. It's a remarkable event in modern American politics.


The most remarkable thing is what it's done to so many careers and what it could end up doing to so many more, in both parties and in nonpartisan agencies. Public policy is going to have its impact on the citizenry, but no one ever thinks about the fact that some of us are going to actually have to run the fucking country these next four years, and Trump's nomination has made that job significantly harder all on it's own even if he loses the GE. His nomination alone has set the Republican party and fucked a lot of careers, especially in the Republican party, and in the event that he did win the GE a lot of people who have worked in both parties or in nonpartisan capacities would then be in a position of having to ask themselves "well, do I press pause on what I'm doing and risk my career in order to serve my country, because I know his administration is not going to be able to fill all the posts they need to, let alone be able to fill them with A-level and B-level staff like they're supposed to?"

Making that sacrifice is probably the end of your career. Choosing not to do it could make you a scumbag, because holding out and passing the job on to someone less qualified will only cause innocent people pain and could even put the country at risk, because that's how big of a threat Trump is to our democracy itself. That's the remarkable thing about his nomination: the sheer stakes it carries for so many people who have spent their careers trying to build a better country, regardless if they work for that party or this one, or that one and now this one, or for no party at all.
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Jul 15 2016 05:32pm
so..Trump is publicly having doubts about the vp decision he just announced?

I give it a week before he does what I said in an earlier post and starts slamming his own vp via twitter
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Jul 15 2016 08:37pm
Apparently, you can't fence the Pence.

Quote (Pollster @ Jul 15 2016 06:41pm)
No he hasn't. Not even a little bit.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/05/17/what-college-students-should-expect-from-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders



http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/04/where-the-candidates-stand-on-student-loan-debt-commentary.html



They readily admit that they haven't laid out a plan because the radio host wingnut (yes, that's who is in charge of coming up with policy on the Trump campaign) says he's trying to get Trump to sign off on "ideas" that will be presented "during the fall campaign" https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/05/13/trumps-campaign-co-chair-describes-higher-education-policies-being-developed

We've already heard one such idea, like I mentioned, but it's half an idea and it's terrible. I don't know if we'll ever hear the other ones fleshed out but based on what he's shared about them they sound just as terrible. I don't know why you asserted something when you clearly had no idea what you were talking about, that was stupid. It was doubly-stupid considering who you were talking to.


http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/13/donald-trumps-college-reform-ideas-surprisingly-good/#lJ2iXC5Psw5YR0Jx.99

That wasn't hard to find at all.

What are you, slacking?
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