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May 30 2023 04:19pm
Quote (El1te @ May 30 2023 03:18pm)
Educate yourself, maybe learn to read too because that is helpful in learning.


its a moral false equivalence, many people have written papers on it
YOU need to educate yourself

https://www.ghi-dc.org/fileadmin/publications/Bulletin/bu66/9.pdf

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In point of fact, a systematic and “legalized” murdering of the disabled has existed only under the Nazis, and they, simultaneously,
punished abortion severely. In countries in which abortion has
been liberalized, the disabled and the elderly and marginalized
groups are generally treated with respect. There is no indication
that abortion has or ever had anything to do with the killing of
human beings.


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Meanwhile, however, the very centrality of (what we can retrospectively see as problematic) assumptions about disability-as-tragedy
to the success of abortion liberalization in Western Europe in the
1960s-1970s has turned out to have major negative implications for
abortion rights more generally in the twenty-fi rst-century present.
This is because right-wing NGOs (an understudied but important
phenomenon) and other antiabortion groups in Western Europe —
and now also with increasing alacrity and creativity in postcommunist Eastern Europe — have seized on the tactic of presenting their
opposition to abortion as a major advance for disability rights. This
right-wing disability rights strategy is arguably the biggest challenge
facing defenders of abortion access in Europe today (and it has also
made inroads now in at least four U.S. states).4
All of this led me to
wonder how it happened that the radical disability-rights movement,
especially in Germany, which had grown out of the New Left of the
1970s, ended up deciding to be passionately opposed to abortion
on grounds of fetal anomaly — even though, as late as 1986, radical
“cripple” activists had rejected antiabortion activists’ overtures.



this last paragraph lays out exactly the kind of duplicitous, disingenuous arguing youre doing right now !

This post was edited by gnarjay on May 30 2023 04:21pm
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Quote (gnarjay @ May 30 2023 03:17pm)
I know what it is you hog, and its not even close to being the same thing


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Those to be killed were identified as "all children under three years of age in whom any of the following 'serious hereditary diseases' were 'suspected': idiocy and Down syndrome (especially when associated with blindness and deafness); microcephaly; hydrocephaly; malformations of all kinds, especially of limbs, head, and spinal column; and paralysis, including spastic conditions"


Go through the words really really slowly, I'm sure you can read it if you just keep trying :)
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ May 30 2023 05:44pm)
Do you ever feel sad that your cult brainwashed you to not even know what crazy clowns you shill for stand in favour of ?

VA Gov. Ralph Northam (D) expressing his support for After Birth Abortion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB43tfyJdX4


Try fact checking.

Northam was referring to “third-trimester abortions” that are done in cases “where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s non viable” he said. “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,” Northam stated
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-virginia-gov-abortion/fact-check-virginia-governors-2019-comments-about-abortion-bill-are-missing-context-idUSKBN27D2HL


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Try fact checking.

Northam was referring to “third-trimester abortions” that are done in cases “where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s non viable” he said. “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,” Northam stated
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-virginia-gov-abortion/fact-check-virginia-governors-2019-comments-about-abortion-bill-are-missing-context-idUSKBN27D2HL


"The infant would be delivered." means the child is born, you low iq trash :rofl:

Then he proposes a "discussion" wether to kill the newborn baby or not.
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ May 30 2023 04:54pm)
"The infant would be delivered." means the child is born, you low iq trash :rofl:

Then he proposes a "discussion" wether to kill the newborn baby or not.


the baby is no longer dependant on the mother, he/she is free to go get a job and pull himself up by his bootstraps if he wants.
Quote (said_aouita @ May 30 2023 04:26pm)
Try fact checking.

Northam was referring to “third-trimester abortions” that are done in cases “where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s non viable” he said. “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,” Northam stated
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-virginia-gov-abortion/fact-check-virginia-governors-2019-comments-about-abortion-bill-are-missing-context-idUSKBN27D2HL


none of the hogs in this thread are willing to have an open and honest discussion, they'd rather hurl around insults and strawmen in order to detract from the original point
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Whats the last cartoon about?
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Whats the last cartoon about?




Underage medications and surgery to convert boys to girls or the opposite.
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