it is racist to call it the chinese virus - it wasn't made by all chinese people - there are chinese american doctors in hospitals risking their lives to help people who blame them for this virus because trump told them it was the chinese virus and they cannot tell the difference in their blind hatred/blind loyalty to trump.

trump's travel ban did nothing.

Nobody is defending china- you terrorists are using them as a scapegoat to deflect from Trump's at home failures.

China is to blame for this, but trump is to blame for the US response and his nonchalant attitude towards the whole thing. He called it the democrats new hoax. then it took 100k lives.

Is telling black people they aren't really black unless they vote for you racist?

Go ahead and provide evidence

I'm not sure if that's the case. We saw what happened to areas that acted later than they should and those hospitals exceeded capacity. Look what happened to NYC when that fucking idiot de Blasio didn't put in proper safety measures.

We're not gonna come to an agreement on Trump, so I'll focus on the quoted part.

A lot of voices are more or less saying that the current level of social distancing shall be kept up until a vaccine is available, which could be in 6 months... or 18... or even later.
For practical purposes, saying "we must stay as shut down as we currently are until there's a vaccine" means arguing in favor of an indefinite shutdown.

To name just one high-profile example of such a voice, take a look at Ezekiel Emanuel. He is one of the chief architects of Obamacare, health adviser to the Biden campaign and slated for Biden's six-person expert committee on coronavirus [1].
He had the following to say about the issue [2]:





[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/biden-campaign-says-new-coronavirus-committee-will-protect-candidate.html
[2] https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/07/ezekiel_emanuel_us_must_stay_locked_down_for_12-18_months_until_theres_a_vaccine.html

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 25 2020 08:30pm

I don't see anything here that supports your position as previously stated. "Cannot return to normalcy" doesn't mean maintain the same level of lock-downs we had at the height of infection. Large events like church services, sporting events, etc. will need to remain shut down until we have mass immunity either through full infection and recovery, or a vaccine, but that doesn't mean everything will remain shut down at the same level as now.

You're doing what you always do. You applied a very specific statement to people in your own camp, "a cancellation of mass events and some social distancing measures were unnecessary" and an overly broad an exaggerated statement to everybody not in your camp "Trump did nothing, shutdowns must be maintained indefinitely, everything is Trump's fault".

He literally said, quote, "Conferences, concerts, sporting events, religious services, dinner in a restaurant, none of that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment, or a cure".

I agree on concerts and sporting events in full, crowded stadiums. But there is zero why sporting events in empty arenas with tightly tested athletes shouldnt resume. In fact, that's what we are already doing in the German Bundesliga (top soccer league), with most other European countries planning to follow suit. Japan will allow stadiums to be filled up to 50% capacity starting in August [1] Tennis tournaments are coming back soon. And so on. Religious services and restaurants are already coming back across Europe and many US states with some sensible precautions.

Simply put, the scope and rigidity of the stuff Ezekiel Emanuel, Biden's health policy adviser, has insinuated here does in fact fully support my previous claim, and it has already been proven wrong by reality since the day he made this statement.



[1] https://mobile.twitter.com/thesuperjcast/status/1264846179440848896?s=21

Yeah, and if you asked him "could we do a bubble league" he would probably say "I don't see why not" or "can we do restaurants safely with 1/4th of the tables and staff all wearing masks?" you would probably get a similar response. We won't return to business as normal for a long while, and we shouldn't until we have mass immunity. You're going out of your way to assume his positions in an absolutist light based on one comment at the very beginning of the shutdown.

I understand why though. Evidence based caution is a hard position to argue against, so you have to pick out the least favorable quotes and extrapolate them to the extreme to get something you can argue against.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 25 2020 09:02pm

look a R that cares about mental health all the sudden

DeBlasio literally told sick people to go back into nursing homes.

Needless to say. If a Democrat is still alive in November and wins. Covid will never end, they will just use it as a scare tactic to pass leftist dystopia level shit. Look at the people that are benefitting from the pandemic.. banks and the largest multinationals.