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That has nothing to do with christianity. It was pure genocide by people who were against religion btw. The biggest perpetrator was Stalin. None of them were religious.
So the overwhelmingly Christian government of the overwhelmingly Christian country didn't have anything to do with Christianity? How to you determine that exactly? How do you determine when an attack by a Muslim militant is inspired by Islam or just the result of standard human atrocities?
Sure, communist Russia was anti religion but they were part of the "civilized" world before that, it wasn't Islam that inspired Stalin. China wasn't viewed as civilized by Europe but the nightmares there weren't created by Islam either.
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Not western society but the US is becoming a degenerate shithole. Nope, I don't want people to adapt our flaws, I even learn from them what's wrong over here (different perspectives help) but I don't want radical fundamentalist violence over here. There is ground for everything, it all starts with peace, dialogue and coexistence.
Germany is famous for fart porn dude what do you mean it isn't a degenerate shithole lol. Western civilization has been dying for a long time, the clown world we are experiencing now is the result of that process. It isn't the fault of Islam that your government is importing Muslims en masse from the worst areas in the world, and neither are the inevitable problems it will produce.
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Countires where drug abuse is most prevalent and harshly punished are Iran and Indonesia, not Christian countries. Again, you're mixing up religion with the politics of today. You'll hardly find a real devoted Christian in the west nowadays. Most muslims commiting those attoricities are actual believers. You route them out by cutting off the source, religious fundamentalism. I don't want any form of it in Germany, not Muslim, not Jewish, not Christian.
Most prevalent? How do you mean, US has the highest use of illicit drugs and probably way more legal. Followed by Estonia, Scotland, Belarus, Mongolia, Canada, Greenland (????), Russia, Kazakhstan and UAE.
Again the problem of importing millions of Muslims is not at the feet of Islam but at the governments who are doing it, you will have a much better chance of changing politics in your own country than changing deeply held religious views of another culture. The best way for Muslims to modernize is by not getting bombed into oblivion and living in their own countries.
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Nope, I choose myself where my standing ground is. I don't have any influence in governmental matters, right now, but I don't agree and I can vote next term.
Maybe the US will let it count
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The west has got its own cocktail of problems, right now, but they are public, so you can come here claim them and I agree with you. Why do still people want to live and immigrate into that "shithole" you call the west? Probably, because it's still better than the real shitholes those people come from. They want a better life and get it but transforming the west into the type of country they fled from in the first place is laughable :lol:
Yes so maybe they should work on solving those problems before policing the world or funding various regimes throughout it. I don't understand your point about it being public?
People immigrate to the west for various reasons, large scale migration is generally influenced by economic factors and western countries are some of the few that would accept this type of migration. In Canada for example we have millions of Indians now because we actively advertised the economic opportunity available here in order to lure in a slave class of service and agricultural workers with no upward mobility. There are others of course but we would need to differentiate between temporary workers, refugees and immigrants. The reasons will vary depending on country but we aren't getting millions of people showing up because they just love our way of life and want to adopt it. How are they trying to change your country?
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Uncontrolled migration is a problem, I agree. Vatican doesn't finance Christian fundamentalists who blow up people with them.
The blame for it lies with the governments allowing it, migration is find as long as it is controlled and people are integrated into the society they are entering, what is happening now is a recipe for hostility.
How many bombings have you experienced in Germany?
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Based on the religions, we've got the most common with Muslims actually. I am aware of that. You compare leftist, degenerate minority with the conservative people and bring them as example. We largely share the same views and are the majourity. We just don't turn violent on people who disagree with us.
You think Muslims are just inherently violent with anyone who disagrees with them? I disagree if so. Westerners can be violent over their beliefs as well, our governments will destroy entire countries if they don't behave or let us rob them.
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Wearing a headscarf doesn't make them "good" women. In fact, I often see those headscarf wearing women in miniskirts, go figure it :lol: They don't have to be whores or whore themself out to dress like normal people. Have you ever seen a woman without makeup and no revealing getup? How about that?
I didn't say it made them "good" women. I said many choose to cover. Why should you get to decide how they dress? It's really none of your business if they choose to wear their religious/cultural attire. You could make an argument that it could lead to crime since they couldn't be identified easily but unless it was a prevalent issue it seems a bit discriminatory to make it a law.