Welp, i mean that's sarcastic comming from an american no offence, last time i checked the manufacturers of war in this current world, yall top dawg.

No sarcasm. I'm consistently anti-war. And every time Europe (or Israel) sneezes, the US is getting involved in another "conflict". Nah, better for us to withdraw from Europe. We don't need you. China, Mexico, South America, and Canada fulfills pretty much all of our trade needs. And frankly, lifting sanctions on Russia and getting their cheap fertilizer and oil would be great. Cheap Russian crude is amazing to the nation with the greatest, and most, refineries on the planet.

Now I will say, I don't see any issue with our weapons manufacturers selling to European nations. Within limits. Saying we aren't going to continue playing mommy for Europe doesn't mean we can't trade or get along. Just that your constant conflicts with each other aren't our problem.

The Budapest Memorandum doesn't prevent Ukraine from joining NATO in any way shape or form. Doesn't matter anyway, since Russia had been violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty since 2014, so Ukraine hypothetically violating that agreement 7 years later, in 2021, doesn't justify Russia declaring war on Ukraine. They very clearly were the ones who broke it first.

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Nah. 2014 was a coup. And not all regions of Ukraine agreed to their representative being chased out of office. The Donbas republics succeeded, and Zelenski spent the next 7 years sicking his asov Nazis on them committing genocide. They requested aid from Russia, and Russia is beating back the Nazi dogs and insuring the independence of those Republics. It's a humanitarian effort, and is part of why while Europe is demanding war against Russia, Putin's making speeches about how they're already rebuilding the region in secured areas, and plan to add far more industry and infrastructure.

Zelenski never "added" anything to the Donbas republics. All he did was hunt down ethnic Russians and heavily tax the region. Nothing but theft, slaves to Kiev. There's no violation of a treaty. Because the government that the treaty was written with was overthrown and chased out of the nation. Never saw Zelenski's government sit down at the table with Putin to determine "how will we get along" and in fact, the reason Ukraine is running so low on men is because Zelenski refused to even negotiate peace as long as the US and Europe continued sending him weapons and money. This is not a guy you want to throw your lot in with. He's sacrificed some 90% of the entire male population of Ukraine without even bothering to sit at a table and swap terms. That's purely psychotic.

When did Russia commit itself to recognizing coups d’etat and forcing regions of Ukraine to remain part of it against the will of the local population?
Essentially what you are saying is the Ethnic Russian Enclave of Crimea didn't have any political rights to self determination at all when faced with the prospect of being less than second class citizens in the new country.
As far as parties that broke section 2 of the memorandum the first to Break it was The United States in 2014, then Ukraine Broke it again in 2021 when it said it was going to join NATO and launch an offensive on Crimea, and at the same time United States said we are fast tracking Ukraine into NATO.
That's why there was a cobbled together invasion force that was I'll prepared at the start of the war.
Do you even know when Crimea became a part of Ukraine?
How about the eastern half of Ukraine?
Do you know the United States rigged the 1996 Russian presidential Election to keep Yeltsin in power?
That's how you ended up with Putin as president.

Tucker is in Russia

not even trying to hide it rofl

This just in, massive war spending boosts short term economic outlook.

Can anyone say, sustainable?

Whats more sustainable, seizing food and energy resources, or artificially manipulating markets?

A bunch of lawyers and consultants charging everyone they can touch millions in retainer fees definitely contribute to that sweet sweet GDP per capita that makes people win wars or something.