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Feb 22 2022 02:31pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 22 2022 01:19pm)
Serbia complaining...that is rich...I remember seeing the mass graves they made in the 1990s all over Kosovo and Bosnia.

#campbondsteel #campmonteith hooah


Ah yes, how dare they complain about NATO's bombing campaign, the first war in Europe in decades that resulted in the deaths of countless innocent people at the hands of US and NATO aircraft.

Don't even get me started on Operation GLADIO, where they killed civilians all over Europe and blamed it on communists.

NATO is a terrorist organization and I truly hope they break apart and are sent to the trash-bin of history along with Washington DC's warmongering neocon and neoliberal elite.
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Feb 22 2022 02:33pm
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Ah yes, how dare they complain about NATO's bombing campaign, the first war in Europe in decades that resulted in the deaths of countless innocent people at the hands of US and NATO aircraft.

Don't even get me started on Operation GLADIO, where they killed civilians all over Europe and blamed it on communists.

NATO is a terrorist organization and I truly hope they break apart and are sent to the trash-bin of history along with Washington DC's warmongering neocon and neoliberal elite.


Decided against self disclosing for no good reason. I'm talking to a coffee table.

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Feb 22 2022 02:53pm
Thread summary:

>"US makes up fantasy over imminent Russian invasion"
Russian tanks in Ukraine
>Doesn't count Putin said it's not Ukraine first
>Why would Biden make Putin do this
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Feb 22 2022 03:00pm
so putin talked about "ancient russian lands", alright thats fine by me

he can have some dirt in eastern ukraine for all i care, but does this mean we will get the northern part of east prussia back?

give it back motherfucker
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Feb 22 2022 03:03pm
Quote (Sioux @ Feb 22 2022 01:53pm)
Thread summary:

>"US makes up fantasy over imminent Russian invasion"
Russian tanks in Ukraine
>Doesn't count Putin said it's not Ukraine first
>Why would Biden make Putin do this


DPR and LPR are not Ukraine. These are sovereign territories that liberated themselves from aggression stimulated by foreign powers.

Please let me know when Russia sends tanks into Kiev :rofl:

Ukraine is self-destructing with every stupid thing they do. Eventually they will have to face the consequences of their actions, but it won't be because of Russia, only because of their own foolish stupidity.
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Feb 22 2022 03:08pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 22 2022 03:17pm)
Just for devil's advocate, I can imagine carrying water for vladimir fucking putin in 2022. Autocratic dictatorships only "work" if the dictator is more Augustus and less Elagabalus. There's a reason George W was still drawing portraits of the guy after he left office, Putin took over the kleptocratic dregs of an imploded empire and rebuilt it into a functional first world country, without the colossal crimes against humanity and catastrophes of his predecessors. The criticisms of him stem from stuff like 'assassinating a dissident' or 'rigging a democratic election', instead of 'killing millions in purges' or 'millions dying in famines'. Cracking eggs to make omelets instead of repeating the Holodomor. The quality of life index for Russians tripled under Putin, he couldn't compete with the US or China yet carved out a 3rd place sphere of influence in a world full of rival developing nations that threaten to eclipse Russia. I don't think kneejerk jingoism and blind hatred of 'the enemy' serves any purpose when discussing geopolitics, look what its got us in the past.

Looking at geopolitics, its pretty hard to pretend America has played a good game of chess against Putin in Afghanistan, the EU, Syria, Ukraine, etc etc. All our injuries are self-inflicted, Putin's main tool of destruction has been to weaponize our idiotic instincts against us, like spraying a hose of brown people at the EU and watching the chaos ensue. Maybe if anything it diminishes any credit we could give to Putin's own skill, in that he's been profiting off American incompetence. And back on the double-devil's advocate, Putin's unstable autocracy is not a sustainable model and we could see Russia implode once more if Putin chokes on a pretzel. Too much relies upon one man, and his successor's main claim is being his puppet.

It doesn't take plunging yourself into moral relativism to just acknowledge that Putin is a more competent leader than Joe fucking Biden, at least.


The main criticism of Putin is that he benefited inordinately from high resource prices, and has done very little to change the underlying parasitism infecting Russian state capitalism. He has wrested control from the oligarchs, insofar as they obey him and not the other way around, but he has built them up to be pillars of the state. The theft continues, just under the auspices of the Russian president.
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Feb 22 2022 03:12pm
Globally a mistake for Putin, he's a man of power who forgot that people are also looking for comfort, his false flag war will cost so much to his economy, weakening him.
Then each time a school or some terrible bombing will occurs the media will relay the news and it will be Putin and Russia's fault, because everyone will remember the last months ending in the "declaration of independance" :huh:
The best next move Putin can do now is then to prove he can bring "peace" inthere, will see.
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Feb 22 2022 03:17pm
Lol Russia will be poorer then Nigeria with the new sanctions.
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Feb 22 2022 03:20pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 22 2022 01:03pm)
DPR and LPR are not Ukraine. These are sovereign territories that liberated themselves from aggression stimulated by foreign powers.

Please let me know when Russia sends tanks into Kiev :rofl:

Ukraine is self-destructing with every stupid thing they do. Eventually they will have to face the consequences of their actions, but it won't be because of Russia, only because of their own foolish stupidity.


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Feb 22 2022 03:27pm
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Lol Russia will be poorer then Nigeria with the new sanctions.


Russia will be living the high life thanks to abundant natural resources while the west literally collapses into itself due to moral & societal decay and fiat currency eventually implodes into oblivion, causing a massive financial crisis that will shake up the "united west" to its core and probably destroy the European Union while we're at it.

They are in a very good position. Their country is united in the face of international aggression and they do not care about sanctions, which they openly defy and mock.

Only an uneducated buffoon would think that any sanctions will have serious impact on Russia. They haven't in the past, and they won't now. The worst that could happen is they are disconnected from SWIFT - but even if that were to happen, it would only accelerate the rapid adoption of cryptocurrencies and other alternatives to the western-controlled financial systems.



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