Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Sep 2021 08:54)

strawman.

im not in favor of the govt requiring businesses to ask for proof of vaccine. or require businesses to make customers mask up.

i AM in favor of businesses doing this if they choose, and i am in favor of the govt sending police to remove uncompliant patrons as trespassers.

i dont think a law has been passed in NY City in my lifetime that im in favor of.

Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 9 2021 10:57am)

So you are in favor of businesses discriminating based on vaccination status.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 9 2021 10:57am)

Not a strawman. You're trying to present as fact that some 30% of society should be forced away from any in-person interaction. That removes them from both the customer pool and the labor pool, which will also remove them from the housing pool eventually.

This will hurt all in-person businesses, as they lose 30% of their customer base as well as 30% of their labor pool, this'll eventually hurt online/delivery businesses, as 30% reduction in the labor pool means 30% reduction in people who can afford their products.

From a business perspective, proof of vaccination is boneheaded. Where we DO agree is that if a business willingly opts to require proof of vaccination, that's fine. However, any attempt by government to coerce businesses into doing so, be it incentive or penalty, is fascist. :)

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 9 2021 12:57pm)

Not a strawman. You're trying to present as fact that some 30% of society should be forced away from any in-person interaction. That removes them from both the customer pool and the labor pool, which will also remove them from the housing pool eventually.

This will hurt all in-person businesses, as they lose 30% of their customer base as well as 30% of their labor pool, this'll eventually hurt online/delivery businesses, as 30% reduction in the labor pool means 30% reduction in people who can afford their products.

From a business perspective, proof of vaccination is boneheaded. Where we DO agree is that if a business willingly opts to require proof of vaccination, that's fine. However, any attempt by government to coerce businesses into doing so, be it incentive or penalty, is fascist. :)

Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 9 2021 10:56am)

Please try to be more entertaining.

Quote (SBD @ Sep 9 2021 11:01am)

Except that 30% is going to significantly decrease as we're already seeing in Canada. The tears are flowing as they all line up to be vaccinated now that they can't be employed and denied service.

Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 9 2021 09:00am)

if they chose to, then yes.

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im not even in favor of the restrictions title vii emposes.

i think a baker should be allowed to tell a gay couple he wont make a gay cake, and then face the consequences, if any.

Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 9 2021 11:03am)

Businesses are already prohibited by law from discriminating. I guess you didn't get the memo.



Why should there by consequences for refusing to bake a gay cake? If there are any.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 9 2021 09:01am)

Yep, nothing left so you've got to try to save face

Quote (SBD @ Sep 9 2021 09:01am)

Except that 30% is going to significantly decrease as we're already seeing in Canada. The tears are flowing as they all line up to be vaccinated now that they can't be employed and denied service.

Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Sep 2021 09:00)

Bold 1: no, im not.

Bold 2: is all im saying. period.

Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Sep 2021 08:46)

you've literally chosen. you're not getting vaxxed. if anything the hell makes u more confident in your choice.

you'll find it harder and harder to operate in society and still choose every day not to get vaxxed, wont you?