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Mar 8 2020 12:36pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 8 2020 07:00pm)
So much stupidity around this, just shows how gullible and easily scared people are. Most people that have died are old people with already weak or compromised immune systems. Even if they caught the normal flu the would be at risk of death because of their underlying conditions. People are acting like this is the bubonic plague.

Between 12,000-30,000 people died of the flu since October in the US. 3500 ish people died of this worldwide in the last two months...

You have to use common sense, the death rate isn't as high as people are thinking it is because so many people aren't actually going to the doctors/hospitals to get treatments, they probably just deal with this virus and it subsides within a few weeks so the survival rate imo is much higher.


Case fatality rate is at least 10x higher than that of the flu and there's no immunity in the herd. Data indicates ~18-20% serious complications that could swamp hospitals if this virus burns through the population.
Quite unreal that there's still people around that are completely unaware of what we're dealing with. You live in a cave or are you high 24/7?


By the by: many SARS patients that recovered ended up with permanent lung damage, chronic fatigue and more. Doesn't look good

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/f0umxa/long_term_side_effects_in_patients_cured_of_sars/

https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars_survivors_struggle_with_symptoms_years_later.html




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the science deniers are putting in extra shifts... and people are wondering why america is so bad at dealing with the virus...
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Mar 8 2020 01:54pm
Quote (fender @ 8 Mar 2020 20:28)
https://i.imgur.com/CiVMz6A.jpg

the science deniers are putting in extra shifts... and people are wondering why america is so bad at dealing with the virus...


De Santis looking like the secretly infected guy in a zombie movie shortly before he's losing his sanity and starts coming for his buddies' brains :lol:
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Mar 8 2020 01:57pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 8 2020 02:36pm)
Case fatality rate is at least 10x higher than that of the flu and there's no immunity in the herd. Data indicates ~18-20% serious complications that could swamp hospitals if this virus burns through the population.
Quite unreal that there's still people around that are completely unaware of what we're dealing with. You live in a cave or are you high 24/7?


By the by: many SARS patients that recovered ended up with permanent lung damage, chronic fatigue and more. Doesn't look good

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/f0umxa/long_term_side_effects_in_patients_cured_of_sars/

https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2010/09/02/sars_survivors_struggle_with_symptoms_years_later.html


The mean age of people dying of the corona virus is somewhere between 70-80 years old. This is an already vulnerable population which has increased death rates even for things like the flu or a common cold.

A study has already been done and shows that the risk of people under 40 dying of this stands at around .2 %. For those under 60 it goes up to 1%. Many of the people who already died already had serious other illnesses that compromised their immune systems.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-age-older-people-higher-risk-2020-2

Secondly, we are getting these rates from people who tested positive for covid. A good portion of people don't go to the doctors/hospitals for flu like symptoms. Maybe because i'm young but I've literally never been to the doctors for the flu nor do i know anyone who's an adult that usually goes to the doctor for things like the flu. People that usually do go are parents with small children or older people or people with preexisting conditions who are sensitive to illnesses . So what this means is that in reality, the reported infections are a fraction of the actually infected people. If you increase the denominator of the actual infections that 3% fatality rate becomes extremely inflated. In China, is it 3000 death out of like 90,000 or 3000 deaths out of like 500,000 but the other 400,000 just sat home and let their immune system beat out the virus?

So the tl;dr? If you aren't in your 70s or 80s and have and okay immune systems you're going to be fine. The sky isn't falling.
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Mar 8 2020 02:04pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 8 Mar 2020 20:57)
The mean age of people dying of the corona virus is somewhere between 70-80 years old. This is an already vulnerable population which has increased death rates even for things like the flu or a common cold.

A study has already been done and shows that the risk of people under 40 dying of this stands at around .2 %. For those under 60 it goes up to 1%. Many of the people who already died already had serious other illnesses that compromised their immune systems.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-age-older-people-higher-risk-2020-2

Secondly, we are getting these rates from people who tested positive for covid. A good portion of people don't go to the doctors/hospitals for flu like symptoms. Maybe because i'm young but I've literally never been to the doctors for the flu nor do i know anyone who's an adult that usually goes to the doctor for things like the flu. People that usually do go are parents with small children or older people or people with preexisting conditions who are sensitive to illnesses . So what this means is that in reality, the reported infections are a fraction of the actually infected people. If you increase the denominator of the actual infections that 3% fatality rate becomes extremely inflated. In China, is it 3000 death out of like 90,000 or 3000 deaths out of like 500,000 but the other 400,000 just sat home and let their immune system beat out the virus?

So the tl;dr? If you aren't in your 70s or 80s and have and okay immune systems you're going to be fine. The sky isn't falling.


Do you realize how fucking many old people there are? We are living in a geriatric society, lol. Yes, the world is not going to end because of this - but the spike in case numbers that is becoming increasingly likely with each passing day will still threaten to overwhelm our healthcare systems and cause economic mayhem.
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Mar 8 2020 02:10pm


The mean age of people dying from ANYTHING is probably 70-80 years old.
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Mar 8 2020 02:17pm
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Do you realize how fucking many old people there are? We are living in a geriatric society, lol. Yes, the world is not going to end because of this - but the spike in case numbers that is becoming increasingly likely with each passing day will still threaten to overwhelm our healthcare systems and cause economic mayhem.


Many of those people die regardless because of a million other ailments and we just attribute them to 'well they died of old age'.

For example:

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70 percent and 85 percent of seasonal flu-related deaths have occurred in people 65 years and older, and between 50 percent and 70 percent of seasonal flu-related hospitalizations have occurred among people in this age grou


But i don't think it would be reasonable to shut down societies even though this above fact is reality. How many old people die because of minor infections? How many die because of some trauma from falling down?

I'm not saying do nothing, but people need to put this into perspective. This isn't the plague or Ebola.
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Mar 8 2020 02:19pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 8 2020 03:17pm)
Many of those people die regardless because of a million other ailments and we just attribute them to 'well they died of old age'.

For example:

But i don't think it would be reasonable to shut down societies even though this above fact is reality. How many old people die because of minor infections? How many die because of some trauma from falling down?

I'm not saying do nothing, but people need to put this into perspective. This isn't the plague or Ebola.


Its worse than ebola because ebola burns itself out and can be easily treated in modern countries.

Its not a plague though.
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Its worse than ebola because ebola burns itself out and can be easily treated in modern countries.

Its not a plague though.


In what way is it worse than ebola, which has a mortality rate of 90%? If treated early, your survival chance bumps into, at best, 33%.
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Mar 8 2020 02:32pm
Quote (OverDoSex @ Mar 8 2020 03:29pm)
In what way is it worse than ebola, which has a mortality rate of 90%? If treated early, your survival chance bumps into, at best, 33%.


Exactly because Ebola is such a quick acting and lethal disease it limits how fast the disease can spread. We will never see a worldwide Ebola epidemic because it is so easily visible and immediately lethal.

A 90% lethality of 30,000 people is less concerning than a 2% lethality of a billion.

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