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Sep 7 2014 01:42pm
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 6 2014 10:58am)
Lol.

I like Camus' take.  He's one of my favorite guys in philosophy...probably my favorite.  It is weird, because most universities end their philosophy curriculum around the time of his death, as if nothing has happened since.

There's at least Zizek :)


Zizek is decent, philosophy though is dead.
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Sep 7 2014 01:54pm
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Zizek is decent, philosophy though is dead.


First god, now this...what is next?
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Sep 7 2014 04:09pm
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First god, now this...what is next?


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Sep 8 2014 06:15am
huh? there's a whole bunch of stuff going on. Badiou and Latour are certainly worth mentioning. Negri's been busy as well
i've heard folks talk about speculative turn, but dunno much about that
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Sep 8 2014 02:59pm
#StatistLogic

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Sep 8 2014 05:16pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Sep 8 2014 03:59pm)
#StatistLogic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxCgkMyIUAAdg7u.jpg


Love arguments that can only be won through false equivalency :thumbsup:

As soon as the private sector picks up the slack it will be great. Until then they are sitting on savings so big our national debt looks like pocket change.
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Sep 8 2014 05:30pm
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Love arguments that can only be won through false equivalency  :thumbsup:

As soon as the private sector picks up the slack it will be great. Until then they are sitting on savings so big our national debt looks like pocket change.


Our problem is that we produce less than what we spend, not some fake witch hunt.
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Sep 8 2014 05:34pm
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Our problem is that we produce less than what we spend, not some fake witch hunt.


We produce less domestically yet we are making record profits?

So it never really trickles down?
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Sep 8 2014 05:55pm
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We produce less domestically yet we are making record profits?

So it never really trickles down?


Not if you're inept at handling your own finances. Quality of life is pretty constant amidst
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Sep 8 2014 06:35pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 8 2014 06:55pm)
Not if you're inept at handling your own finances. Quality of life is pretty constant amidst


I'm doing pretty good, but many people played by the rules, worked their ass off for a couple decades, and seen their savings and 401ks vanish into thin air due to moral hazards in banking.

People who are highly educated (and current) will be able to rebound fine, but people who worked their ass off at manufacturing jobs that have been outsourced and aren't coming back and they don't have very good future prospects, plus one of the dominant political parties are hostile to them, doing things like slashing employment insurance that workers have paid into, working around the clock to prevent working folks from being able to have health insurance, or even for us to have a minimum wage that doesn't ignore economic realities like inflation and rising cost of living.

Of course there will be people who make the claim you just made, stating that being poor is strictly a moral failing and one just has to be good and play by the rules and everything will just fall into place regardless of historical circumstances and structural inequality.
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