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Jan 31 2021 03:11pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 31 2021 09:18pm)
The acquisition of covid vaccines was delegated by the member states to the EU commission led by von der Leyen. It is a complete and total disaster. The lack of early vaccine access will, in comparison with Israel, the UK, the US or Canada, cost Europe tens of thousands of lives and require lockdowns and other restrictions to be kept in place far longer So as a result of this fuckup, we're talking about a five figure death toll, hundreds of billions in economic damage, gigantic social and psychological costs, a huge blow to the reputation of the EU with its own people and also abroad, and incalculable political ramifications when the people of Europe are presented with the costs of the crisis.


Agreed. This is a fuckup of epic proportions. Every day of unnecessary delay causes a lot of damage. lots of member states involved, many many people.

We can look forward to the investigations that are sure to follow and the heads that are going to roll.

The weird part is that the main COVID strategy has been focused on vaccines for over half a year, people have been promised better times after the vaccination program, this is one of those things you politically and economically can't afford to fuck up.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 31 Jan 2021 21:18)
The acquisition of covid vaccines was delegated by the member states to the EU commission led by von der Leyen. It is a complete and total disaster. The lack of early vaccine access will, in comparison with Israel, the UK, the US or Canada, cost Europe tens of thousands of lives and require lockdowns and other restrictions to be kept in place far longer So as a result of this fuckup, we're talking about a five figure death toll, hundreds of billions in economic damage, gigantic social and psychological costs, a huge blow to the reputation of the EU with its own people and also abroad, and incalculable political ramifications when the people of Europe are presented with the costs of the crisis.


interesting how you're not shy to make such bold claims, but never once acknowledged that trump's approach towards the virus, politicising it in the first place, playing favourites with federal help, anti-mask and distancing rhetoric, undermining science, self-enrichment with relief measures... was directly responsible for countless loss of life and immense economic damage.

not that those are even remotely the same ofc. when it comes to the EU, which i totally agree fucked up regarding covid-19 (not as much as the UK and the US, but still), this one concerns SECURING vaccine doses for its members, not research or production itself, let alone its general approach towards following experts' and scientists' recommendations. of course someone like you will be eager to overstate the failure to an almost absurd degree, but that does ofc not mean we shouldn't demand better and push for political consequences.

Quote (dro94 @ 31 Jan 2021 22:09)
There is a valid reason why everyone in the world hates Germans you know...


lol, just because YOU do, doesn't mean "everyone" does. luckily most people aren't as hateful and mad as you, little buddy:

https://www.netigate.net/articles/archive/bbc-opinion-survey-says-germany-is-the-most-popular-country-in-the-world/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/germany-most-admired-country-in-the-world-as-us-china-and-russia-vie-for-second-place-gallup-poll

not that i really expect you to start caring about facts when your feelings tell you otherwise...
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interesting how you're not shy to make such bold claims, but never once acknowledged that trump's approach towards the virus, politicising it in the first place, playing favourites with federal help, anti-mask and distancing rhetoric, undermining science, self-enrichment with relief measures... was directly responsible for countless loss of life and immense economic damage.

Oh, I did notice your copypasta about the "literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of dead Americans DIRECTLY because of Trump". You were harping on and on and on and on and on about it. I never feel the need to interrupt your little circle jerk.

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not that those are even remotely the same ofc. when it comes to the EU, which i totally agree fucked up regarding covid-19 (not as much as the UK and the US, but still), this one concerns SECURING vaccine doses for its members, not research or production itself, let alone its general approach towards following experts' and scientists' recommendations. of course someone like you will be eager to overstate the failure to an almost absurd degree, but that does ofc not mean we shouldn't demand better and push for political consequences.

Procuring enough doses to vaccinate its own population as soon as humanly possible was THE single most important task the EU had in all of this pandemic - and they fucked it up beyond imagination. Even the liberal and usually europhilic New York Times drily commented on the pace of the EU's vaccination campaign:
"The European Union has been beset by a litany of problems since it approved its first coronavirus vaccine, made by Pfizer and BioNTech, in December and rushed to begin a vast immunization campaign weeks behind rich nations like the United States and Britain.
While it is flush with cash, influence and negotiating heft, the bloc of 27 nations has found itself behind those countries, as well as others like Israel, Canada, and the United Arab Emirates."

tldr: the EU is having the slowest vaccination campaign of the rich world, and it's a fucking embarrassment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/world/europe/europe-covid-vaccinations.html

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Quote (fender @ Jan 31 2021 07:35pm)
interesting how you're not shy to make such bold claims, but never once acknowledged that trump's approach towards the virus, politicising it in the first place, playing favourites with federal help, anti-mask and distancing rhetoric, undermining science, self-enrichment with relief measures... was directly responsible for countless loss of life and immense economic damage.

not that those are even remotely the same ofc. when it comes to the EU, which i totally agree fucked up regarding covid-19 (not as much as the UK and the US, but still), this one concerns SECURING vaccine doses for its members, not research or production itself, let alone its general approach towards following experts' and scientists' recommendations. of course someone like you will be eager to overstate the failure to an almost absurd degree, but that does ofc not mean we shouldn't demand better and push for political consequences.



lol, just because YOU do, doesn't mean "everyone" does. luckily most people aren't as hateful and mad as you, little buddy:

https://www.netigate.net/articles/archive/bbc-opinion-survey-says-germany-is-the-most-popular-country-in-the-world/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/germany-most-admired-country-in-the-world-as-us-china-and-russia-vie-for-second-place-gallup-poll

not that i really expect you to start caring about facts when your feelings tell you otherwise...


If she failed in the vaccine rollout, she is undoubtedly responsible for a myriad of lost lives. Given how strongly you felt about Trump, what are you doing to hold this mass murderer accountable?
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Feb 1 2021 02:25am
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If she failed in the vaccine rollout, she is undoubtedly responsible for a myriad of lost lives. Given how strongly you felt about Trump, what are you doing to hold this mass murderer accountable?


Where is the like button I want to +1

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Quote (bogie160 @ 1 Feb 2021 06:41)
If she failed in the vaccine rollout, she is undoubtedly responsible for a myriad of lost lives. Given how strongly you felt about Trump, what are you doing to hold this mass murderer accountable?


"If" vs "it will go away in april" and "it's their hoax" :thumbsup:

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Where is the like button I want to +1


:drool:
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 31 2021 08:37pm)
Just for the record: after the latest election for the European parliament resulted in a gridlock between the leftist and rightist factions, it was French president Macron (not Merkel) who settled for and pushed through von der Leyen as a compromise candidate. Von der Leyen had already been a complete and total failure in her role as a minister in Merkel's cabinet, so at least to us Germans, it's no surprise that anything this woman touches turns to shit.


To think we could have had Timmermans...

Oh well.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 1 Feb 2021 06:24)
Oh, I did notice your copypasta about the "literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of dead Americans DIRECTLY because of Trump". You were harping on and on and on and on and on about it. I never feel the need to interrupt your little circle jerk.


and STILL you can't do it, such is your devotion to that racist, seditionist grifter who melted your brain, lol
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Quote (fender @ Feb 1 2021 11:50am)
and STILL you can't do it, such is your devotion to that racist, seditionist grifter who melted your brain, lol


It's highly entertaining to first see you spout pages of garbage showing your dislike towards the British cuz they left your beloved union, then see you return to your same old TDS rhetoric once you realize it's actually the EU that fucked up and the British, as a sovereign nation, got it right and are on schedule with their all important vaccination program.

Instead of wild butthurt deflections, pls inform us how it's possible your superior EU fucked up so badly.

This post was edited by Djunior on Feb 1 2021 05:48am
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