This whole thing reeks of EU doing a poor job on the contracts they signed, EU should have understood they're dealing with big pharma, their only real interest is money, shareholders, bonuses for the upper management and growth.

Everything in that contract should be nailed down without any holes that give these shit companies even the slightest room to wiggle. In the case of EU, the politically correct SJW puppets that signed the contracts seem to have fucked up and now you're getting ass-raped by big pharma who really don't give a shit.

Pwned buddy, next time sent some real men to negotiate the contract, lol

IDK about you guys but fucking around with the EU doesn't seem like good business sense.

Dude seriously, we're dealing with big pharma here. Do you get it?

I get it. I just don't understand how nations with standing armies and the ability to produce weapons can let pharma push them around. If I ever become President I'm carpet bombing all of em

Fair enough

more silly deflection attempts. you just highlighted what i stated previously: the EU is merely insisting AZ use all their production facilities (something they explicitly committed to in the contract), including the ones in the UK, which the EU invested money into previously, to fulfill their contractual obligations.

misrepresenting that as 'demanding the UK's vaccine supplies', again, is shameful and blatantly wrong. it's not even remotely the same, and the fact that you can't even admit something that was exposed as such an obvious lie is rather pathetic - even for someone like you. again, it's 'daily mail' level fearmongering and dishonesty...

They honestly deserve it.

Less than 2% of the crimes they commit ever come to surface and even when they do the executives always get away without punishment.

Been saying the same thing several pages ago.

It seems like AZ signed contracts for more doses than they can deliver, and now they're desperately scrambling to get out of their predicament with as little legal trouble and lawsuits and fines as possible. Hence, they're turning to their wobbly contract with the EU which is probably less airtight than the ones they signed with the UK or non-European countries. But this is a super short-sighted calculation. Cutting the shipment to the EU by more than half while continuing to deliver 100% to everyone else is just a super antagonistic dickmove.

Making an enemy out of the EU like this will cost AZ far more in the long run. Like I said previously: in the future, the EU can delay the approval of new AZ drugs by many years if it wants to. It can torment them with constant safety and tax audits, it can use minor violations to shut down facilities or to issue arrest warrants against AZ managers, and so on. If there ever was an occasion for the EU to pursue ruthless, brutal power politics, this is it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 30 2021 08:58am

Diverting vaccine supply away from the UK is demanding UK vaccine supplies

The EU u-turning after 12 hours on stopping vaccine exports in NI and without consultation of the Irish or British governments is even more embarrassing than the above, though.

no, it's literally not - and you can't weasel yourself out of that by pretending it's your poor english skills that made you claim something that is demonstrably false. it was a lie, plain and simple.

the EU demanding that AZ fulfill what they contractually committed to is NOT 'demanding the UK's vaccine supplies'. the supplies they produce are not the UK's exclusively to begin with - maybe that's the point you struggle to comprehend? your claim was not that 'the EU wants AZ to produce the vaccines it ordered in all four of its facilities, something AZ explicitly agreed to in its contract with the EU', which would have been a correct statement - no, you deliberately chose a dishonest and factually incorrect framing in order to make the EU look worse, and the poor little UK a victim.

hmmm... where have i seen this before? oh right, just every time some braindead brexiteer uncritically repeated the leave grifters' anti-EU propaganda. really shameful, mate.

This post was edited by fender on Jan 30 2021 10:42am