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Jul 6 2021 07:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Jul 2021 19:47)
The Emerging Democratic Majority II: Demographic Boogaloo

Democrats have been deluding themselves for over 20 years that they are on the verge of securing an imminent structural majority which will allow them to win election no matter how bad the candidates they nominate or how shitty the policies they pursue. Not gonna happen. It should also be noted that these "elderly millenials" were college-aged during the GWB years, and he was just a horrible fit for this age group. Trump in a septuagenarian who ran a boisterous campaign in 2016 and against an extremely difficult political environment in 2020. (A lot of the headwind he faced in 2020 came down to his own shortcomings, don't get me wrong...)

Concluding from what are essentially two data points that Republicans, or Republican policies, are structurally unable to appeal to younger voters is a real stretch if you ask me.


out of touch pale pasty privileged lefty nimbys like that user don’t understand that groups are not monolithic in their voting preferences, other than the unelected tech oligarchs

biden needed every last one of the white squishy pale pasty privileged anti-american scared shitless suburban 65k+ in student debt karen vote to win. basically every minority group as a % shifted towards Trump in 2020 (this with increased turnout too)
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Jul 6 2021 07:56pm
Quote (excellence @ 7 Jul 2021 03:42)
out of touch pale pasty privileged lefty nimbys like that user don’t understand that groups are not monolithic in their voting preferences, other than the unelected tech oligarchs

biden needed every last one of the white squishy pale pasty privileged anti-american scared shitless suburban 65k+ in student debt karen vote to win. basically every minority group as a % shifted towards Trump in 2020 (this with increased turnout too)


He also needed the marginal reversion of the white non-college vote in his direction - at the end of the day, Hillary was a uniquely toxic candidate for this demo and someone like Biden was always bound to improve over her margins with non-college whites by some percent, which he did (and needed to do.)

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Jul 6 2021 09:12pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2021 07:47pm)
The Emerging Democratic Majority II: Demographic Boogaloo

Democrats have been deluding themselves for over 20 years that they are on the verge of securing an imminent structural majority which will allow them to win election no matter how bad the candidates they nominate or how shitty the policies they pursue. Not gonna happen. It should also be noted that these "elderly millenials" were college-aged during the GWB years, and he was just a horrible fit for this age group. Trump in a septuagenarian who ran a boisterous campaign in 2016 and against an extremely difficult political environment in 2020. (A lot of the headwind he faced in 2020 came down to his own shortcomings, don't get me wrong...)

Concluding from what are essentially two data points that Republicans, or Republican policies, are structurally unable to appeal to younger voters is a real stretch if you ask me.


I'm curious to see if Hispanics will persist in voting for the GOP or if it was just a fluke due to the socialism fear-mongering. This might be the determining factor since they are the biggest non-white demographic.
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Jul 6 2021 09:15pm
Quote (excellence @ Jul 6 2021 09:42pm)
out of touch pale pasty privileged lefty nimbys like that user don’t understand that groups are not monolithic in their voting preferences, other than the unelected tech oligarchs

biden needed every last one of the white squishy pale pasty privileged anti-american scared shitless suburban 65k+ in student debt karen vote to win. basically every minority group as a % shifted towards Trump in 2020 (this with increased turnout too)


Nice try but Blacks barely shifted if at all. We see you for who you truly are, and this will never change.
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Jul 6 2021 09:29pm
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I'm curious to see if Hispanics will persist in voting for the GOP or if it was just a fluke due to the socialism fear-mongering. This might be the determining factor since they are the biggest non-white demographic.


Yeah, I think that's the big question going forward: were Trump's improvements with hispanics in 2020 a one-off due to the specific circumstances of that election, or were they indicative of a longer-term trend?

Hispanics are disproportionately working in service industries and they are disproportionately small business owners, both of which were battered by the pandemic. In this sense, I can see Trump's anti-lockdown stance falling on fertile ground with them.
Additionally, the summer of BLM, riots and looting, as well as the extreme focus of Democrats and the media on blacks and their issues, might have alienated some hispanics and given them the feeling that their interests were taking a back seat for Democrats.
These two issues were unique to 2020 and won't be replicable.

An alternative explanation would be the following: in Latin American countries, charismatic populists and celebrities with outsized media presence have always been doing well. Perhaps a version of Donald Trump that isn't talking about Mexican rapists and border walls all the time is actually a good fit for latino voters, personality-wise. If this factor contributed significantly to Trump's inroads with latinos, then the GOP would be ill-advised running stiff bores again. (Although that type plays better in upscale suburbs where they need to staunch the bleeding...)

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Jul 6 2021 09:38pm
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Nice try but Blacks barely shifted if at all. We see you for who you truly are, and this will never change.

a much larger voter turnout with a higher % of the vote is a notable shift. Black people are not the only minority group either, SMH! pathetic take there by you, budgeting.

of course, racist pale pasty privileged lefties like you hate minorities who dont “act and think they way” you expect them to.

inb4 your passive aggressive angry little rage retort lmfao, pathetic..

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Nice try but Blacks barely shifted if at all. We see you for who you truly are, and this will never change.


Who do you mean by you?
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a much larger voter turnout with a higher % of the vote is a notable shift. Black people are not the only minority group either, SMH! pathetic take there by you, budgeting.

of course, racist pale pasty privileged lefties like you hate minorities who dont “act and think they way” you expect them to.

inb4 your passive aggressive angry little rage retort lmfao, pathetic..


https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/

"Apart from the small shift among Hispanic voters, Joe Biden’s electoral coalition looked much like Hillary Clinton’s, with Black, Hispanic and Asian voters and those of other races casting about four-in-ten of his votes. Black voters remained overwhelmingly loyal to the Democratic Party, voting 92%-8% for Biden."

And, lol @ you still thinking I have a multi or that I'm White.
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Jul 6 2021 09:51pm
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Who do you mean by you?


The 50%+ of the GOP who strongly believe the election is stolen.
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Jul 6 2021 10:03pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 6 2021 11:29pm)
Yeah, I think that's the big question going forward: were Trump's improvements with hispanics in 2020 a one-off due to the specific circumstances of that election, or were they indicative of a longer-term trend?

Hispanics are disproportionately working in service industries and they are disproportionately small business owners, both of which were battered by the pandemic. In this sense, I can see Trump's anti-lockdown stance falling on fertile ground with them.
Additionally, the summer of BLM, riots and looting, as well as the extreme focus of Democrats and the media on blacks and their issues, might have alienated some hispanics and given them the feeling that their interests were taking a back seat for Democrats.
These two issues were unique to 2020 and won't be replicable.

An alternative explanation would be the following: in Latin American countries, charismatic populists and celebrities with outsized media presence have always been doing well. Perhaps a version of Donald Trump that isn't talking about Mexican rapists and border walls all the time is actually a good fit for latino voters, personality-wise. If this factor contributed significantly to Trump's inroads with latinos, then the GOP would be ill-advised running stiff bores again. (Although that type plays better in upscale suburbs where they need to staunch the bleeding...)


It's hard to tell because the virus significantly changed the whole electoral landscape. If it weren't for the riots which alienated a lot of people, Biden would have absolutely crushed Trump imo. Then again, if there weren't any virus (no lockdowns, no masks and less vulnerabilities the left-leaning media can exploit) Trump would have had a chance of winning definitely.
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