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Aug 28 2020 12:55am
Quote (TritonV8 @ Aug 27 2020 11:12pm)
Responding to your "antifa holding me at gunpoint" example doesn't make me a terrified conservative. Do you always use this kind of intellectual dishonesty?

Since we're making blanket statements about police, I'm sure you mean the black/other minority officers as well, right? Or is this more intellectual dishonesty?



Yes, I do mean them as well.
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Aug 28 2020 09:24am
so another direct witness account of the shootings:
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/27/we-witnessed-the-kenosha-shootings-heres-what-really-happened/

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Richie would later tell me that he saw what prompted the first shooting. A verbal fight escalated as the victim tried grabbing the alleged shooter’s rifle – twice. The second time, Richie told me, the victim came very close to getting his hand on the man’s gun, trying to grab it away from him. He may have actually made contact, but it’s unclear amid the mayhem. That’s when the shooter fired.


Its unclear from this statement whether he's saying that Rosenbaum trying to grab Kyle's gun happened twice in quick succession as he chased Kyle, or whether he first tried to grab his gun during the verbal argument, causing him to run, then chased him and tried to grab it again
I think we still lack understanding on why they took off running. But at least the sequences of events of the immediate seconds of the shootings are clear now, someone else shot first, kyle reacted and turned around, rosenbaum tried to grab kyle's gun in a lunging attack and kyle shot him.

also, its beginning to trickle up the food chain;

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1299327274710437888

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This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 28 2020 09:26am
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Aug 28 2020 10:33am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 11:49pm)
The most fundamental reason I support Biden is because Trump has, with absolutely no exaggeration, been the most corrupt president of our, our parents, and probably our grandparents lifetimes. His interference with the justice department alone is a level of corruption that dwarfs Nixon. Additionally, he is fundamentally incompetent in the position and as a result has cost us our position in the world and has allowed dangerous enemies like China to become policy makers in our place. We will likely never be able to make good deals with other countries again because Trump has shown how dangerously unbalanced our system can be if one bad president gets into office.

I could really go on for quite a while, but when the choice is one "meh" candidate and one unacceptably terrible candidate, that's pretty obvious.

In the primary I would have voted for Bernie, but it was after Super Tuesday where Biden had basically wiped him out.


If an autistic kid is having a fit, why would you have an armed police officer with only basic first aid training respond? You wouldn't. But that's the system we have, and we've literally had cases where cops were called to assist with a mentally handicapped person and ended up shooting them. Defunding the police is an absolute necessity and is actually supported by the police as long as you call it by a different name. People hear "defund the police" and they just hear take away money, but it actually means "shift funding from police to other services to take unnecessary burden from the police"


I think it's clear that Trump is the most corrupt president EVER. We learn about the Teapot Dome scandal as "the most corrupt thing" and I think in aggregate, the Trump administration tops that.

"Defund the Police" is a terrible message. Police need to be reformed and there should be units that deal with mentally ill people. I know the people who back "Defund the Police" will say that's their goal but the messaging loses that point.
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Aug 28 2020 10:37am
Quote (thundercock @ 28 Aug 2020 18:33)
"Defund the Police" is a terrible message. Police need to be reformed and there should be units that deal with mentally ill people. I know the people who back "Defund the Police" will say that's their goal but the messaging loses that point.


Not all people who say "defund the police" actually mean this kind of common-sense reform. Some BLM activists and leaders really mean defunding the police.

Take this op-ed in the NYTimes, titled "Yes, we mean literaly abolish the police":
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html
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Aug 28 2020 10:43am
https://www.mystateline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2020/08/Rittenhouse.pdf

Not sure if anyone posted this, but you can read the complaint here.

What's interesting is that the SECOND shooting is intentional homicide whereas the first one is reckless homicide. I always thought a self-defense claim was significantly stronger with the 2nd death.
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Aug 28 2020 11:11am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Aug 28 2020 01:55am)
Yes, I do mean them as well.


I thought the leftists claimed black people can't be racist? How can a black cop be racist?
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Aug 28 2020 11:26am
Quote (TritonV8 @ 28 Aug 2020 19:11)
I thought the leftists claimed black people can't be racist? How can a black cop be racist?


To paraphrase Biden:
"If you'e a pig, you ain't black"
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Aug 28 2020 11:32am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 28 2020 12:26pm)
To paraphrase Biden:
"If you'e a pig, you ain't black"


Damn, I keep forgetting that. Biden knows that pigment can be changed based on political stances!
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