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Jul 7 2019 06:18pm
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Ofc they do. Most people want to be good people. They're not trying to cause harm. That's why we approach deradicalisation by first gaining an understanding of the issues people face and the reasons they believe what they do. Your average conservative is just a dumb bigot... they're not trying to be hateful they're just ignorant.


the best way there has ever been to open minds and hearts is getting to know one another

it's ain't fair for a minority of any type but it's the only peaceful way and it's the most effective way

people are more accepting of LGBTQ because their family and friends came out and that connection builds that bridge eventually

same thing with race

yelling at people doesn't work, escalating situations and violence doesn't work

taking the time to connect to one another's humanity eventually works in most people, doesn't always build a big ass bridge but it'll give you a little stick one big enough to walk on through
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Ofc they do. Most people want to be good people. They're not trying to cause harm. That's why we approach deradicalisation by first gaining an understanding of the issues people face and the reasons they believe what they do. Your average conservative is just a dumb bigot... they're not trying to be hateful they're just ignorant.


Wow that's rude
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Jul 7 2019 06:24pm
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the best way there has ever been to open minds and hearts is getting to know one another

it's ain't fair for a minority of any type but it's the only peaceful way and it's the most effective way

people are more accepting of LGBTQ because their family and friends came out and that connection builds that bridge eventually

same thing with race

yelling at people doesn't work, escalating situations and violence doesn't work

taking the time to connect to one another's humanity eventually works in most people, doesn't always build a big ass bridge but it'll give you a little stick one big enough to walk on through


And that works for the average conservative. Hell it even works for the fash sometimes when you can separate them from their bros. But when they're in a tight group all reinforcing each others' bullshit and encouraging eachother toward greater acts of violence all you can do is pick off the stragglers... most of them ain't gonna change for shit.

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Wow that's rude


The way LGBT people and minorities get treated in the US you're fucking lucky if this is the worst you get back from them.
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Jul 7 2019 06:29pm
Fun twitter thread that demonstrates what happens when police do get involved in these things -
https://twitter.com/ChuckModi1/status/1147635405061349378

Antifa offer protection for BLM protestors. White supremacist attacks the group. Police arrest antifa and let white supremacist 'go on about his business'.

Left-wing activism is consistently policed and right-wing protests are protected. The police are always on the side of the fash.

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And that works for the average conservative. Hell it even works for the fash sometimes when you can separate them from their bros. But when they're in a tight group all reinforcing each others' bullshit and encouraging eachother toward greater acts of violence all you can do is pick off the stragglers... most of them ain't gonna change for shit.



The way LGBT people and minorities get treated in the US you're fucking lucky if this is the worst you get back from them.


bring down poverty and cages for men and you get less child abuse and neglect which turns into less teens vulnerable and full of rage to be radicalized

but antifa doesn't actually want to help because they benefit from the above and are full of the above just like all other extreme groups

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Quote (TransTankie @ Jul 7 2019 08:29pm)
Fun twitter thread that demonstrates what happens when police do get involved in these things -
https://twitter.com/ChuckModi1/status/1147635405061349378

Antifa offer protection for BLM protestors. White supremacist attacks the group. Police arrest antifa and let white supremacist 'go on about his business'.

Left-wing activism is consistently policed and right-wing protests are protected. The police are always on the side of the fash.


Lefttards are pretty bad tho
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Jul 7 2019 06:58pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 8 Jul 2019 01:33)
bring down poverty and cages for men and you get less child abuse and neglect which turns into less teens vulnerable and full of rage to be radicalized

but antifa doesn't actually want to help because they benefit from the above and are full of the above just like all other extreme groups


A lot of hardcore commies would agree with you. This is the basic idea behind class reductionism. They would say you have to fight the disease (capitalism) rather than the symptoms (social injustice). I disagree. I think you can fight both simultaneously. Different groups do different jobs.

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Jul 7 2019 07:36pm
Quote (TransTankie @ 7 Jul 2019 19:24)
And that works for the average conservative. Hell it even works for the fash sometimes when you can separate them from their bros. But when they're in a tight group all reinforcing each others' bullshit and encouraging eachother toward greater acts of violence all you can do is pick off the stragglers... most of them ain't gonna change for shit.



The way LGBT people and minorities get treated in the US you're fucking lucky if this is the worst you get back from them.


how the hell would you know lmao you stay tucked in your gated in aristocrat ivory tower in Derbyshire or wherever, floating aimlessly through your 5th attempt at sophomore year knowing that your pale pasty lefty privilege will take care of all the things
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Jul 7 2019 07:56pm
Fascists killed 19 people in Canada since 2014; antifascists have killed 0.

Talking about the USA: fascists killed 50 people in just 2018; antifa killed 0.

If you draw an equivalence between telling journalists to fuck off & mass murderers you've shown what side you're on.
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Jul 7 2019 08:03pm
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Fascists killed 19 people in Canada since 2014; antifascists have killed 0.

Talking about the USA: fascists killed 50 people in just 2018; antifa killed 0.

If you draw an equivalence between telling journalists to fuck off & mass murderers you've shown what side you're on.

“antifacists” aka marxists and their derivatives (includes antifa and yourself) killed 60-100mm since the start of 20th century
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